Seems near impossible to get an interview without knowing someone (gov't jobs)

[BS Gal (Premo)]

Originally Posted by snuzzy

Being "over qualified" may be your problem. You see it as an asset, as an employer, I hated to go through the hiring process and looked for employees who were likely to stay in a position. Being over qualified and working on your degree says to me 1) You don't want this position and will be moving on a.s.a.p. and I will have to go through the whole process again, soon 2) You are not committed to the job and as soon as you have a final to study for, etc, your attendance will be poor. Also, when I have interviewed people who felt they were above the position that they were applying for, their attitude was that "this job is beneath me" and it affects the workplace/personality dynamics in a negative way. Stop looking at this from your point of view, and try matching what you have to offer to whatr an employer's needs might be. JMO Good Luck!

This is soooo true.

[Kerad]

I got my job (@ Andrews, thru DynCorp) only beacause an ex-supervisor of mine in the USAF sent out emails notifying us about it.

Many of these jobs are filled thru in-house references and connections. However...Vetjobs.com, and many others (do a google search for Security clearance jobs) do what they can.

Also...you may have more luck finding jobs from the websites of said companies themselves: Lockheed, DynCorp, General Dynamics, Haliburton, etc...

Most of them don't advertise outside their own sites.

My $.02

good luck!

[Lokiskoll]

Originally Posted by drkwtsn

No what I am wondering is why I never even get calls back for jobs I apply for when I am clearly over qualified for, but would gladly take (I.E tech support, sys admin)... As said in my 1st post, it seems to me you need to know someone to get these positions, as all of the help desk / sys admin positions I have applied for require a high school degree, not a college degree.
I guess every group has a cynical person, you just must be it!

It's because human resource departments at the respective institutions are not the best mechanism for obtaining employment, nor are they neccessarily concerened with finding the best people, nor is it one of their higher priorities. They also get flooded with spam and resumes.

There are exceptions, but I've found this more or less to be true. You need an "in" at most places unless their recruiters are above average in merit.

I'm assuming you've tried the mass recruiting websites like Monster. They don't neccessarily cater to having a clearance, but have many possibilities including finding a recruiting agent who could work for you.

My advice is to find someone on the inside of the organization, like your potential boss. Cut throught the fat. Inform them of your desire and qualifications. If they want you, they will get you in.

[LexiGirl75]

Originally Posted by mrweb

Without a degree, forget it... ..It is mighty tough to get a good tech job around Pax without a degree. Without one, you have to know someone........that's the game, like it or not.

I'm not liking what I am reading. : Can you please elaborate on your sharings above. TIA

[LexiGirl75]

Originally Posted by drkwtsn

Better job? nope
I'd take a job of lesser skill...
My main reason for getting a new job is I currently drive 72 miles each way to work... it's killing me

I remember those days, and you probably have to cross the WW Bridge. Been there, and I live extremely close to the base. Are you already military? I would hope that the young military men and women (under 35) who retire or don't reenlist get first dibs for job openings on the base even if they dont have a degree.

I don't have technical skills, not sure if I want to get them just so I can get one of those high paying jobs right under my house's nose. Yes, I want to be able to continue living the life of a celebrity like I was use to in DC, but at what cost?

I mean, you come down here for the white pickett fence but without the briefcase job you are kind of defeating the purpose. Everyone has been saying that without the "right" career tools getting a high paying job here or one on the base or with the big companies is near impossible. So the only option is to work far, far away just to have a job that will pay you something decent for what skills you have acquired so far.

The thought of networking being the fact of the matter when it comes to applying for a job is wonderful, but not if no one knows you (well enough) who can help you. At this point I am in between what I want to do. I am extremely glad that I didnt make a more drastic move like to some place that didnt even have a place I could commute to for job opportunities.

I plan to go back to school but the thought of choosing a career like engineering and accumilating student loans to fork it freaks me out. At my age that magnitude of debt is not what I want greeting me at the end of four years. Anyone, feeling me? I mean let's keep it real with each other. (please)?