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Old 02-14-2006, 11:31 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I believe that a commercial acft once landed on station too, along time ago. Ken would probably know those stories better than I.
I work with a guy that was with GEMD back then. It was a Canadian Airlines plane, I believe a 727. Nobody hurt, but he said the passengers were extrememly pissed that there were no hotels back then!
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Old 02-14-2006, 11:36 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I work with a guy that was with GEMD back then. It was a Canadian Airlines plane, I believe a 727. Nobody hurt, but he said the passengers were extrememly pissed that there were no hotels back then!

NTSB Identification: BFO85IA024 .
The docket is stored on NTSB microfiche number 28023.
Scheduled 14 CFR Part 129: Foreign AIR CANADA
Incident occurred Monday, March 04, 1985 in PATUXENT RIVER, MD
Aircraft: Lockheed L-1011, registration: CFTNE
Injuries: 2 Minor, 276 Uninjured.
WHILE ENROUTE FM FT LAUDERDALE, FL TO MONTREAL, CANADA, AIR CANADA FLT 087 REQUESTED TO MAKE AN UNSCHEDULED LNDG DUE TO SMOKE IN THE REAR OF THE ACFT. C-FTNE WAS VECTORED TO PATUXENT RVR NAS, PATUXENT, MD AND DESCENDED OUT OF FL 370. THE SMOKE WAS DETERMINED TO BE ORIGINATING FM A BLACK BOX IN AN OVERHEAD BIN LOCATED ABOVE SEAT #42. ATMPS WERE MADE DRNG THE DSCNT TO IDENTIFY THE BOX AND FIND THE APPROPRIATE CIRCUIT BREAKERS BUT WERE UNSUCCESSFUL DUE TO LACK OF LABEL ON THE BOX AND OTHER DUTIES OF THE CREW DRNG DSCNT. THE ACFT LNDD W/O INCIDENT AT PXT NAS AT 2306 HOURS EST ON MARCH 4, 1985, AND THE CPT RPTD THAT THE SMOKE STOPPED WHILE TAXIING TO PKG. INVESTIGATION REVEALED THAT THE SMOKE ORIGINATED FROM THE EMGCY PWR PACK WHICH CONTROLS THE EMGCY LIGHTING SYSTEM. A CASE TO CASE ELECTRICAL SHORT BETWEEN 2 ADJACENT CELLS IN THE SELF CONTAINED PACK RESULTED IN OVERHEATING. THIS WAS TRANSFERRED TO THE POLYETHYLENE TAPE USED TO HOLD THE 24 CELLS TOGETHER. AN INTERNAL FUSE IN THE BATTERY CHARGING CIRCUIT WAS FOUND POPPED.


The National Transportation Safety Board determines the probable cause(s) of this incident as follows:

EMERGENCY LIGHT(S)..SHORTED
EMERGENCY LIGHT(S)..OVERTEMPERATURE
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The accident your refering to had nothing to do with failure to "Yield to (landing)
aircraft". I knew her sister. The women was killed by an F-18 that just took off from TC-7 and lost control, went inverted and just by chance hit a van on the airfield..
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Old 02-14-2006, 11:38 PM   #14 (permalink)
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The accident your refering to had nothing to do with failure to "Yield to (landing)
aircraft". I knew her sister. The women was killed by an F-18 that just took off from TC-7 and lost control, went inverted and just by chance hit a van on the airfield..
Wrong. Opposite end of the runway from TC-7.
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Old 02-14-2006, 11:41 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Old 02-14-2006, 11:42 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Wrong. Opposite end of the runway from TC-7.
If it just got "shot" from TC-7(approach end of 32). That would be the opposite
end. Where was the van?
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Old 02-14-2006, 11:42 PM   #17 (permalink)
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I've never had to yield to the aircraft, but I used to live right on the flight path. That's why it aggravates me when folks get on here and complain about "the sound of freedom". I actually kind of miss it.
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Old 02-14-2006, 11:44 PM   #18 (permalink)
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If it just got "shot" from TC-7(approach end of 32). That would be the opposite
end. Were was the van?
It was a Ford truck near the shooting range down past TPS. If you look close, you can still see the ground scar. Where are you talking about?
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Old 02-14-2006, 11:47 PM   #19 (permalink)
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It was a Ford truck near the shooting range down past TPS. If you look close, you can still see the ground scar. Where are you talking about?
Right...The plane was taking off on 32. The opposite end of 32 is 14...which just happens to be right at the shooting range...I remember the accident.
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Old 02-14-2006, 11:58 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Read your posts, then tell me. If it was shot from TC-7, how did it turn around 180 degrees, fly almost a mile, and then crash parallel to the runway? That is not what happened.
It didn't turn 180...it just crashed at the other end of the same runway...it was still heading on a 320 degree course and the vehicle it was at the opposite end of that runway. Which would be 140 degrees.

BTW..I don't racall if it was a "Cat-Shot" or not. But that's the runway it took off from. Any plane that does take off from TC-7 would be on the same course. 320!

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