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Old 04-19-2006, 02:06 PM   #41 (permalink)
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Strange. Usually they cut back civil service and replace them with contractors.
Then after a while they say "hey we have too many contractors" and the cycle begins.
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Old 04-19-2006, 06:07 PM   #42 (permalink)
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if anyone was at the all hands a couple months ago with Massenburg they talked about this...as far as NAVAIR...

most cutbacks are not really cutbacks, they are counted as cutbacks even though they were never cut to begin with. they were never hired either. this is cost avoidance. which still counts.

the next majority will be taken out from attrition/retirements.

Only a small fraction will be actual "cuts".
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Old 04-19-2006, 06:43 PM   #43 (permalink)
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if anyone was at the all hands a couple months ago with Massenburg they talked about this...as far as NAVAIR...

most cutbacks are not really cutbacks, they are counted as cutbacks even though they were never cut to begin with. they were never hired either. this is cost avoidance. which still counts.

the next majority will be taken out from attrition/retirements.

Only a small fraction will be actual "cuts".
That's what I am hearing too, that NAVAIR was ahead of the curve on this and has been using the buyout option to intice those retirement eligible/close to retirement to get on with it. We are already real close to the 20% mark and future attrition with the buyouts being offered again should get us to the magic number.
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Old 04-20-2006, 12:43 AM   #44 (permalink)
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Don't they say the same thing each yr they do the Brac? I have worked on or around the base for 14 yrs and its always the same thing.
Yea, and they'll never shut down NAS Oceana either.
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Old 04-20-2006, 10:25 AM   #45 (permalink)
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I beg to differ, but NAS Oceana's fate was sealed right up until our moron Mayor Peyton caved into the whining from some westside residents who didn't want to have Cecil Field reopened due to noise concerns. The money to start reactivating the base to receive Oceana was already starting to flow. If Peyton changes his mind, Oceana is history.
 
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I beg to differ, but NAS Oceana's fate was sealed right up until our moron Mayor Peyton caved into the whining from some westside residents who didn't want to have Cecil Field reopened due to noise concerns. The money to start reactivating the base to receive Oceana was already starting to flow. If Peyton changes his mind, Oceana is history.
WHere's thethil field.. thorry, I'm kinda thtuffy this morning..
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Old 04-21-2006, 12:50 PM   #47 (permalink)
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The last all hands meeting we had in the station theater our director or what ever the hell he is called said "we have done a great job and met our goals cutting back with retirement but we have more to do".

And notice the article says "new cuts"

Why would the sec nav say cut 20% jobs but not mean 20% of the current jobs not 20% of the jobs 2 years ago?
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Old 04-22-2006, 12:17 AM   #48 (permalink)
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The last all hands meeting we had in the station theater our director or what ever the hell he is called said "we have done a great job and met our goals cutting back with retirement but we have more to do".

And notice the article says "new cuts"

Why would the sec nav say cut 20% jobs but not mean 20% of the current jobs not 20% of the jobs 2 years ago?
The Force Management Oversight Council Strategic Plan for 2006 - 2009 was developed in 2004. NAVAIR saw the writing on the wall early on and immediately initiated movement towards meeting those objectives outlined by the plan. As a result of that proactive posture we are real close to the 20% goal and should be able to achieve it without a RIF. Activities that missed or ignored where the Council was heading have more of a concern then NAVAIR.
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