Please help us rent a house.....

[unixpirate]

Originally Posted by beerlover

"It's a loveable dog and absolutely non-aggressive...." That's what all pit bull owners say. Right up until the day it rips the face off of some unsuspecting toddler or old lady. Why would any landlord take a risk on renting to a pit-bull owner when he could just as easily rent to someone else and forgoe the risk?

Wait till Pixie gets ahold of your arse



Pixie? where art thou Pixie

[beerlover]

Originally Posted by unixpirate

Wait till Pixie gets ahold of your arse



Pixie? where art thou Pixie

Hey Man, sometimes the truth hurts... And
I'm not naive enough to think that what I say or think is going to change somebody else's mind about a pet that they love. I just hope that there are no incidents with that pet for them. There are plenty of other breeds that are just as smart and loyal and everything else that don't have the same bad history.

[Sadysue]

Originally Posted by beerlover

Hey Man, sometimes the truth hurts... And
I'm not naive enough to think that what I say or think is going to change somebody else's mind about a pet that they love. I just hope that there are no incidents with that pet for them. There are plenty of other breeds that are just as smart and loyal and everything else that don't have the same bad history.

You know, no one MADE you read this thread. I know WHY people don't like pitbulls, hence my post asking for help to find people that do. Like I said before, the dog fell into my lap. I didn't WANT a pitbull. You seriouly have too much time on your hands. You don't want to help, ignore the thread, it's that simple really.

[Chestr]

what you say is in part true, mike. You have made a good point. Unlike beerman, you've done some homework and that's commendable.

However this problem was later identified by the fact that an uneducated police officer commonly referred to every mixed breed dog and mutt out there as "pitbull" because of the insta-hype so that's what gets put into the report.

There was a study done in texas over a 10 year period that wildly disproves these figures. I would like to challenge your mind, mike, by at least considering my points.

However, beerman, your "truths" are still way off in outer space.

My mother's aunt's nephew's landlord's uncle once had a mean pitbull must make them bad dogs. Furthermore lets not even get started on the inacuracy of the media. I won't even entertain that information for fun.

Here are some true facts.

The only people raising fighting dogs today are a small contigent (est. 1-2%) of criminals and gang members - these people are also selling drugs, carry guns and are a threat to society on many different levels. It's not the dog's fault.

If a gang member shoots someone - dont punnish people by taking guns, punnish the gang members who misuse them.

If a dog who has been mistreated commits a crime - don't punnish the rest of the breed by ELIMINATING IT, punnish the person who made that dog that way.

According to Alfons Estelt of the American Temperament Test Society, Inc. temperament evaluations of American Pit Bull Terriers shows that this breed has a very high passing rate of 95%. The average passing rate for the other 121 breeds of dogs in the tests: 77%.

These temperament tests consist of putting a dog through a series of unexpected situations, some involving strangers.

Any signs of unprovoked aggression or panic in these situations result in failure of the test. The achievement of Pit Bulls in this study disproves that they are inherently aggressive to people. (Please visit ATTS.org)

Pitbulls are actually not time bombs waiting to go off. They are truthfully quite a bit more stable than many other breeds of dogs that are considered to be the "house pet" variety.

ANY DOG from ANY BREED is not inherently evil or unstable just because of its breed. This is a MYTH spurned on by the media. I suppose I can't fault you for buying into it, beer man. Although laughable, your opinions do follow the current trend of misinformation.

But hear this:

I am ALL FOR putting a dog down that commits a violent crime, regardless of breed!! It will help to breed this behavoir out of our future friends. HOWEVER lets punnish the owner too. Lets make it illegal for pet owners who have proven themselves un-fit to have pets to get another one. Let's not euthanize the dog just for the simple fact of what breed it belongs to. Only euthanize the INDIVIDUAL DOGS that deserve it!

Do you know what happens when you ban a breed?

The BAD OWNERS simply switch breeds! Any neglected dog will have the capacity for violence. Any at all...

[Sadysue]

People should be required to have a license to own a pet OR have kids, but that's just my opinion.