swine flu or ????

[RareBreed]

My son told me yesterday that one of his friends from school (Appeal Elem) was just diagnosed with Swine Flu.

[kwillia]

As expected... steady increase in numbers (we are zone 3) from what was posted week before... CDC - Seasonal Influenza (Flu) - Weekly Report: Influenza Summary Update

[Cowgirl]

Does anyone have a link to info stating the swine flu vaccine is dangerous? My sister is a day care provider with an infant, so she'll most likely have to get the vaccine (daycare providers are strongly being urged to get it), so she's looking into it a bit more. She said she's read that it's been approved by the FDA, and it's manufactured the same way as the regular flu vaccine, except targeting the swine flu, obviously.

[libertytyranny]

Originally Posted by Cowgirl

Does anyone have a link to info stating the swine flu vaccine is dangerous? My sister is a day care provider with an infant, so she'll most likely have to get the vaccine (daycare providers are strongly being urged to get it), so she's looking into it a bit more. She said she's read that it's been approved by the FDA, and it's manufactured the same way as the regular flu vaccine, except targeting the swine flu, obviously.

I have read that pretty much everywhere as well. The normal Flu vaccine only goes through so much testing as well...So it is not any more or less safe. There has been talk, as there is anyway with the usual flu vaccine, that it is simply not effective and therfore is just a waste. Because the vaccine does not cover all types of the flu there is no gaurentee you wont get sick..even if that type is covered in the vaccine.
I would argue, however that I would not want to get the nasal mist. As it is a live vaccine there is a risk that the disease could be contracted. I wouldnt get the mist for the seasonal shot either.

Here is a link that explains the "its ineffective" argument better than I can.
http://www.canada.com/health/vaccine...ml?id=1867678#

[Dymphna]

Originally Posted by Cowgirl

Does anyone have a link to info stating the swine flu vaccine is dangerous? My sister is a day care provider with an infant, so she'll most likely have to get the vaccine (daycare providers are strongly being urged to get it), so she's looking into it a bit more. She said she's read that it's been approved by the FDA, and it's manufactured the same way as the regular flu vaccine, except targeting the swine flu, obviously.

I was reading an article this morning about people's concerns....ie. it was rushed to market, untested. no data on long-term side effects, possibility of catching it from the live virus, etc.... I didn't see anything in the article that said all these concerns were unfounded....a few concerns are dismissed, but most of them were not refuted.
AP Poll: Third of parents oppose swine flu vaccine - Yahoo! News

[Cowgirl]

Originally Posted by Dymphna

I was reading an article this morning about people's concerns....ie. it was rushed to market, untested. no data on long-term side effects, possibility of catching it from the live virus, etc.... I didn't see anything in the article that said all these concerns were unfounded....a few concerns are dismissed, but most of them were not refuted.
AP Poll: Third of parents oppose swine flu vaccine - Yahoo! News

Thanks.

[getbent (Premo)]

Both my daughters brought home the papers yesterday to get the H1N1 shot. I think it said something about a booster shot for the flu one? Have to read it again. I'm torn between what to do. They both did get the flu shot, well one got the shot the other got the nasal mist. I just don't know.

[navigator]

Originally Posted by Cowgirl

Does anyone have a link to info stating the swine flu vaccine is dangerous? My sister is a day care provider with an infant, so she'll most likely have to get the vaccine (daycare providers are strongly being urged to get it), so she's looking into it a bit more. She said she's read that it's been approved by the FDA, and it's manufactured the same way as the regular flu vaccine, except targeting the swine flu, obviously.

I think you can answer your own question by reading the following that was released by the NIH:

List Of Components Of Glaxo H1N1 Vaccine

BIOLOGICAL INDEX

chicken embryos (eggs)
influenza virus, H5N1
virus culture

CHEMICAL INDEX

alpha - tocopherol-to help absorb Vitamin E

aluminum adjuvant - Alzheimer's KEY Ingredient - 100% B.A.D.

AS03 adjuvant

Daronrix - experimental bird-flu vaccine

disodium phosphate - food preservative

formaldehyde - you know, for DEAD people- SHOULD NEVER BE IN HUMANS!!

magnesium chloride - "Salt"

octoxynol 10 - Tumor promoter-dependent phosphorylation

polysorbate 80 -induced persistent vaginal oestrus

potassium chloride - metal halide salt

potassium dihydrogen phosphate - salt which is used as a fertilizer

sodium chloride - table salt

sodium deoxycholate - secondary bile acid

squalene - adjuvant known to cause a host of debilitating autoimmune diseases

vitamin E

thiomersal (thimerosol) - MERCURY 100% DEADLY SHOULD NEVER BE IN HUMANS!!

[Cowgirl]

Originally Posted by navigator

I think you can answer your own question by reading the following that was released by the NIH:

List Of Components Of Glaxo H1N1 Vaccine

BIOLOGICAL INDEX

chicken embryos (eggs)
influenza virus, H5N1
virus culture

CHEMICAL INDEX

alpha - tocopherol-to help absorb Vitamin E

aluminum adjuvant - Alzheimer's KEY Ingredient - 100% B.A.D.

AS03 adjuvant

Daronrix - experimental bird-flu vaccine

disodium phosphate - food preservative

formaldehyde - you know, for DEAD people- SHOULD NEVER BE IN HUMANS!!

magnesium chloride - "Salt"

octoxynol 10 - Tumor promoter-dependent phosphorylation

polysorbate 80 -induced persistent vaginal oestrus

potassium chloride - metal halide salt

potassium dihydrogen phosphate - salt which is used as a fertilizer

sodium chloride - table salt

sodium deoxycholate - secondary bile acid

squalene - adjuvant known to cause a host of debilitating autoimmune diseases

vitamin E

thiomersal (thimerosol) - MERCURY 100% DEADLY SHOULD NEVER BE IN HUMANS!!

Have you also read that they're producing the H1N1 vaccine the same way they produce the regular flu vaccine? The only difference, of course, is that one contains the H1N1 flu virus and one contains the season flu virus? Wouldn't that mean the seasonal flu also contains all of the above ingredients? And people have been getting that vaccine for how long?

[getbent (Premo)]

Daughter came home today and told me her friend just came back to school from being out sick. She missed apprx. 10 days. Supposively it was the swine flu. (Banneker Elem)