The Strategic Context Of Lethal Drones

[nhboy (Premo)]

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The Strategic Context Of Lethal Drones, A framework for discussion

[JPCusick (Premo)]

Originally Posted by nhboy

The Strategic Context Of Lethal Drones

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The Strategic Context Of Lethal Drones, A framework for discussion

Here below is quoted the entire message in context:

"In the interest of objectivity, this paper will not address the moral and political arguments about the proper use of targeted killings."

The "American Security Project" is going to leave out the immorality and the cowardice and the criminal depravity of murder by drone, and call that "a discussion" indeed.

Puke

[MMDad]

Originally Posted by JPCusick

Here below is quoted the entire message in context:

"In the interest of objectivity, this paper will not address the moral and political arguments about the proper use of targeted killings."

The "American Security Project" is going to leave out the immorality and the cowardice and the criminal depravity of murder by drone, and call that "a discussion" indeed.

Puke

They don't want to get into the debate of why it's criminal to make terrorists feel bad at Gitmo, but it's perfectly okay to kill them, their children, and any bystanders unlucky enough to be around.

[Cheeky1]

Originally Posted by JPCusick

...Puke

How about considering a discussion involving the just raw data and numbers?

Is that really too much to ask for?

Keep the emotions, sensations, and assumptions out the discussion. Only numbers. Argue the numbers.

Though, it did take me a few minutes to discern what each numerical figure represented in real, material terms. I don't work in that field, but someone that did could probably recognize them on the spot and debate them.

[JPCusick (Premo)]

Originally Posted by Cheeky1

How about considering a discussion involving the just raw data and numbers?

Is that really too much to ask for?

Keep the emotions, sensations, and assumptions out the discussion. Only numbers. Argue the numbers.

Though, it did take me a few minutes to discern what each numerical figure represented in real, material terms. I don't work in that field, but someone that did could probably recognize them on the spot and debate them.

Doing that is immoral and it is cowardly and it is criminal depravity.

The drones are murdering real people, and they are NOT "numbers" or "sensations" or "material terms".

Taking the humanity out of the discussion makes it inhuman.

[MMDad]

Originally Posted by JPCusick

Doing that is immoral and it is cowardly and it is criminal depravity.

The drones are murdering real people, and they are NOT "numbers" or "sensations" or "material terms".

Taking the humanity out of the discussion makes it inhuman.

If it's immoral and cowardly, why is your boy Obama doing it? Aren't you a hypocrite for not placing the blame where it belongs, with the Commander in Chief?

[Larry Gude (Premo)]

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[JPCusick (Premo)]

Originally Posted by MMDad

If it's immoral and cowardly, why is your boy Obama doing it? Aren't you a hypocrite for not placing the blame where it belongs, with the Commander in Chief?

I agree that Obama is failing us too in this regard, but Obama is still better than Romney.

I myself do not really blame our military or the Generals or the President(s) because in the case of the drones it is that our technology has surpassed and overrides our humanity.

In our military there are large numbers of suicides, as I believe our troops know the things are wrong but they have to follow orders.

Our Country has always lacked morality and now that is really ripening.

[CrashTest]

I miss Bill Clinton.

Diplomacy via cruise missle versus diplomacy via drone strike.

[Lurk]

Originally Posted by Cheeky1

Keep the emotions, sensations, and assumptions out the discussion. Only numbers.

Liberals cannot win a debate that way. Facts unfortunately don't line up on their side most of the time.