Why do military retirees collect retirement......

[czygvtwkr]

Originally Posted by Misfit

I don’t get it either. I collect 10% and if the gubberment wants to keep that for the greater good, it’s all theirs but my 10% injury was done at work while on active duty not like another guy I know who laid down his motorcycle and now collects. I’ve been hearing for the last month sequestration this and sequestration that. It seems to me it’s becoming just another case of entitlement.

I work with someone who has a whole list of ailments he claims are service related, like his 400lb weight, high blood pressure, bad knees and erectile disfunction, he said his ED is what got him the final 10% to be at 100. The worst part is I had to listen to his phone calls to the VA about his ED without laughing.

[Monello]

Originally Posted by Radiant1

When I read that I thought that perhaps some cuts to certain aspects of military retirement isn't such a bad idea. There's something about you receiving more in retirement than you ever did while active that rubs me the wrong way. Not sure why though.

What sort of cuts did you have in mind? I'd be all for a certain % reduction provided government handouts (not entitlements), Welfare, WIC, TANF, Section 8, etc. also be cut the same percentage.

And while we are at it why not change the rule that says no GS can ever be fired. As a prior 'beltway bandit' I saw plenty of contractors let go, but never 1 civil servant axed. I've worked with several GS types that when they took the day off, productivity went up.

[Radiant1]

Originally Posted by Monello

What sort of cuts did you have in mind? I'd be all for a certain % reduction provided government handouts (not entitlements), Welfare, WIC, TANF, Section 8, etc. also be cut the same percentage.

And while we are at it why not change the rule that says no GS can ever be fired. As a prior 'beltway bandit' I was plenty of contractors let go, but never 1 civil servant axed. I've worked with several GS types that when they took the day off, productivity went up.

All of the above! I'm all for cuts across the board, including your retirement. I'm glad to see you say youl'd be willing to take a reduction. It seems that the majority of people who are reliant on the gov't in one way, shape, form or another are quick to cry "Take theirs, not mine!" So, good on ya.

[vince77]

I'm civilian retired at 54 and 11 months (took a months leave) to reach 55. Retired under CSRS with 30 years 8 months. Also worked 16 hours a week at the post office when I was in High School which they gave me 2.5 years of full time credit for...so I left at a little over 80% when I retired. Pension's a little more than 100K a year. I was fortunate...been retired 6 years

[philibusters]

Originally Posted by desertrat

What about Civil Service?

It depends on your age. For people born after 1970 to get the full retirement you have to be 62. That said people can get an early retirement about 5 years earlier then their full retirement eligibility age, but they will take a reduced retirement for the rest of their lives.

[Vince]

Originally Posted by CrashTest

For 8 years?

Not getting married is another option.

And if you do get married, getting a divorce will lose you up to 50% of your retirement pay...FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE!!

[DoWhat (Premo)]

Originally Posted by vince77

Pension's a little more than 100K a year. I was fortunate...been retired 6 years

Damn, did you retire as a SES'er?

[Radiant1]

Originally Posted by vince77

I'm civilian retired at 54 and 11 months (took a months leave) to reach 55. Retired under CSRS with 30 years 8 months. Also worked 16 hours a week at the post office when I was in High School which they gave me 2.5 years of full time credit for...so I left at a little over 80% when I retired. Pension's a little more than 100K a year. I was fortunate...been retired 6 years

I'm not trying to denigrate your hard work, but I find this ridiculous. Are my taxes seriously going towards paying 100 grand/year for your retirement!? Would you be like Monello and consider taking a reduction if there were cuts to entitlements as well?

Maybe I'm misunderstanding something, but it's situations like this that make some people think there is another side to "entitlements" when someone works for the gov't all their life and doesn't necessarily work any harder than someone in the private sector but seems to reap greater benefits from it.

[CrashTest]

Originally Posted by Radiant1

I'm not trying to denigrate your hard work, but I find this ridiculous. Are my taxes seriously going towards paying 100 grand/year for your retirement!? Would you be like Monello and consider taking a reduction if there were cuts to entitlements as well?

Maybe I'm misunderstanding something, but it's situations like this that make some people think there is another side to "entitlements" when someone works for the gov't all their life and doesn't necessarily work any harder than someone in the private sector but seems to reap greater benefits from it.

It would take about 7-8 people working full time and earning 100K themselves just to pay that 1 person's retirement assuming that 100% of their taxes went to pay that retirement and nothing else.

New roads and bridges anyone? Don't hold your breath.

[DoWhat (Premo)]

Originally Posted by Radiant1

Maybe I'm misunderstanding something, but it's situations like this that make some people think there is another side to "entitlements" when someone works for the gov't all their life and doesn't necessarily work any harder than someone in the private sector but seems to reap greater benefits from it.

Sorry, but that is one stupid a$$ comment.