Why you're invisible on a bike

[ItalianScallion (Premo)]

Originally Posted by Blister

You are wrong. If it is loud enough to make me look around you are "Obnoxiously Loud".
God invented loud bikes and hair gel so you can spot the a**holes from afar.

Originally Posted by aps45819

Did anybody click on the link?

I'm sorry, I can't hear you

Yes I did and that's really amazing! As soon as the green dot disappeared, I shifted my eyes and the yellow dots re-appeared.

[ItalianScallion (Premo)]

Originally Posted by desertrat

I would rather be able to hear than have all sound drowned out by pipes. Pus I like to be able to hear when I get home from a ride. Those dudes with really loud pipes cannot have any clue as to what is going on around them.

I agree! Personally I cannot stand those short, open pipes. In the late 90's, Alexandria VA outlawed them.

Originally Posted by ginwoman

That's like people who walk or jog with thingees in their ears (music or whatever). They must be oblivious to whats going on to their rear and sides. I'm sorry but I just think thats dumb.

Yes, it is dumb...........but that's my only source of music while on my Harely. I can still hear fairly well with them in but for those kids and joggers; bad choice for sure. That's one reason why they get jumped.

[belvak (Premo)]

Originally Posted by aps45819

Motion Induced Blindness
When you take the safety course they emphasize the need to constantly scan your surrounding.
When you don't, things like motorcycles, disappear

MSF

Okay, I had a hard time "focusing" on the center, because I was checking the "perimeter" all the time. As a matter of fact, when I forced myself to focus on the center, it really bothered me. I'm used to always checking everything when I'm driving. Maybe that's why?

[glhs837]

Yep, if you're a trained observer, that sort of constant scan is second nature. Yet another area where our driver training is lacking.

[Larry Gude (Premo)]

Originally Posted by ItalianScallion

Mine isn't obnoxiously loud (the pipes have baffles), but loud enough to get their attention. Even with their car windows shut, I catch most drivers looking around to see what the loud sound is.

Yeah, and then they are distracted by you and plow into the Gold wing in front of them stopped for the light.

For every plus of loud pipes, it is demonstrable that there is a least one minus and there is no conclusive evidence that 'loud pipes save lives'.

That eye test focus's on what matters most; vision. I learnted that we, people, have predator and prey vision and, most of the time, when we 'didn't see 'em' we were focusing, using our predator vision on something. They teached us, as riders, to pretty much always use our prey, peripheral, vision and ONLY look where you want to go, always. Bike goes where we look.

So, I weave, a lot. I move around. I never just go along at the pace of traffic. I make myself attracted and noticed by their peripheral vision. If they're gonna kill me, they're gonna have to earn it; no freebe's.

[Larry Gude (Premo)]

Originally Posted by glhs837

Yep, if you're a trained observer, that sort of constant scan is second nature. Yet another area where our driver training is lacking.

Mandatory MC license BEFORE you can earn your cage creds.

[Larry Gude (Premo)]

Originally Posted by aps45819

Did anybody click on the link?

Yes, thank you. AWESOME example of predator/prey vision.

[GWguy]

Originally Posted by ItalianScallion

I agree! Personally I cannot stand those short, open pipes. In the late 90's, Alexandria VA outlawed them.

Yes, it is dumb...........but that's my only source of music while on my Harely. I can still hear fairly well with them in but for those kids and joggers; bad choice for sure. That's one reason why they get jumped.

I believe it's also illegal, as it is for a driver in a car.

[itsbob]

Originally Posted by GWguy

I believe it's also illegal, as it is for a driver in a car.

Earphones or earplugs are and on a bike only allowed one in helmet speaker..(i think).

AND there is conclusive evidence that loud pipes cost lives, not save them.

[desertrat (Premo)]

Originally Posted by itsbob

Earphones or earplugs are and on a bike only allowed one in helmet speaker..(i think).

AND there is conclusive evidence that loud pipes cost lives, not save them.

One of those statistics that probably doesn't take into account a few other factors?