Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith

[cholo]

Originally Posted by SamSpade

That said - I like 'em all, warts and everything. It's fun to watch. But comparing them and critiqueing them? What's the point?

I agree. Overall, I thought it was a great flick. Fight scenes and special effects are all I care about. I couldn't care less if one of the "sequels" that came out 20 years ago said that Leia's mother didn't die during childbirth.

It would have been even better if:
1. I wasn't sliding all over the nasty floors in the LP ghetto theater
2. I didn't have to sit in the second effing row
3. My kids could have held their water a little longer and not make me miss the Obi-Wan/Darth Vader fight scene

[vraiblonde]

Originally Posted by SamSpade

I'd have to say, the Ewoks and Jar-Jar are at a dead TIE for annoying.

No way. The Ewoks serve a purpose and they actually do credible battle, even though they look like stuffed animals. Jar Jar does nothing but act ignorant and cause trouble - he's the reptilian version of Lucy Ricardo without the comic timing.

I can imagine that younger movie-goers that aren't familiar with the originals would enjoy the prequels a lot more than us oldsters. They've been raised on special effects that take the place of plot and character development - to them, it's just what movies are. But even in the highly special-effected Terminators 2 and 3, there was a story and people you knew and cared about. Their relationships were realistic and the dialogue rang true.

These later Star Wars' are just stupid.

Originally Posted by cholo

Fight scenes and special effects are all I care about.

Well, this should be your favorite movie, then, because that's all it has.

[Toxick]

Originally Posted by vraiblonde

These later Star Wars' are just stupid.

Maybe it's just me, but I never thought that Episodes 4/5/6 were any more sophisticated or better done than episodes 1/2/3.

Actually, I shouldn't say never. I watched Episode 1, and was really annoyed until I sat down and watched 4/5/6 again, and it really dawned on me. Yeah -same style, same acting skills, same type of dialog.

The only real advantage that 4/5/6 had over 1/2/3 (in my opinion) is that I watched Hope, Empire & Jedi through the bright hopeful eyes of a naive child, and I watched Menace, Clones & Sith through the cold calculating eyes of an adult cynical bastard.

Plus There's no Han Solo in the first three episodes, but I can't really fault anyone for that.




Nowadays there's only one thing about any of the movies that really really annoys me.

That STUPID STUPID two-headed pod race announcer.

[Club'nBabySeals]

Challenge Lord Vader:

Sith Sense



He guessed mine...

[Larry Gude (Premo)]

Originally Posted by SamSpade

That said - I like 'em all, warts and everything. It's fun to watch. But comparing them and critiqueing them? What's the point?

The point is simply gaining peoples opinions. It's conversation. Jaws didn't make somebodys new top 100 list. That's unconscionably stupid. It's just my opinion.

I think it's always fun to hear people point out what they like about something I think is terrible and for them to point out what they think suxs about what I like. It increases the knowledge and refines the pallet. Live, learn and what not.

I'll be very interested in getting your opinion of Revenge of the Stiff.

And I do hope you enjoy it!

[mainman (Premo)]

Originally Posted by Club'nBabySeals

Challenge Lord Vader:

Sith Sense



He guessed mine...

I stumped him...

[Pete (Premo)]

[Toxick]

Originally Posted by Club'nBabySeals

Challenge Lord Vader:

Sith Sense

to the peek-a-boo Stormtrooper!

[Tonio]

Originally Posted by vraiblonde

I can imagine that younger movie-goers that aren't familiar with the originals would enjoy the prequels a lot more than us oldsters. They've been raised on special effects that take the place of plot and character development - to them, it's just what movies are. But even in the highly special-effected Terminators 2 and 3, there was a story and people you knew and cared about. Their relationships were realistic and the dialogue rang true.

Well said. The first Star Wars was intended to be goofy escapist fun, and that's what appealed to moviegoers our age. (I was 10 when it came out.) As I got older, I found that I wanted stories with a little more substance.

Both film critics and science-fiction writers have had a longstanding beef with Star Wars. The critics mourned the end of an interesting period in American film. The MPAA ratings system was only a few years old and directors like Coppola and Scorcese and, ironically, Lucas were trying new things. After Star Wars, the studios began focusing more on kids and less on adults, and more on FX and less on story. They perceived (with some justification, I think) that preteens didn't care about story and character development.

And literary science fiction had gone through a New Wave where writers were experimenting with the genre. To these writers, Star Wars was nothing but Flash Gordon with better special effects, a step backward. But at least Star Wars eventually led the studios to make meatier SF movies. (Want some good karma? Name the three movies made from Philip K. Dick stories.)

[vraiblonde]

Originally Posted by Tonio

(Want some good karma? Name the three movies made from Philip K. Dick stories.)

That one with Tom Cruise and the pre-crime ESP people.

Blade Runner

Total Recall