Harry Potter...

[PmoneyandTT]

All backgrounds have some form of non-christian beliefs.  The way of life is what the interest is.  Its the historical facts.. History doesn't glorify good or bad - it just gives the facts - and you come to your own conclusions of the information that you read.  Watching something that is made for fun - isn't what I would call history.. Native American's didn't practice christianity - but I have that blood running through my vains - and Im very interested to know about that history.  

At this point - I see you fish for anything to belittle my beliefs.  Making more out of something is rather boring.

[Jimmyrich]

I'm not trying to belittle your beliefs. Like I said, I'm questioning your motivations for not allowing your children to see this movie. And, yes, you are bearing the brunt of this movement about harry and satanism etc...I'm just trying to see if that is what you are buying into.  I still don't have a clear picture about why you wouldn't let you children see this SPECIFIC movie....and you never answered TT's question abuot the Chronicle's of Narnia....But as to your points about History vs. entertainment, point taken.

[SxyPrincess]

I believe this forum is labeled "REVIEWS."  and not "RELIGIOUS BELIEFS."  

This should be a fun topic to talk about but it's clearly obvious it's turned into a "bash."  

On that note...anyone seen "THE WASH?"  

[PmoneyandTT]

Because Im the parent - no means No.. They never asked to see the movie for the 2nd reason.. They have no interest in seeing it.. They don't care what other kids at school think.. If thats the case - then I quess they should bleach their skin - and grow a penis - because being a women and of dark complexion is going to be trial enough - so they should just close shop and be what everybody wants them to be.. A follower.. WE "majority" don't understand why you can't watch this movie.. Well because I don't want too.. What part of don't want to - not interested - my decision as a parent don't you get?  You say you don't have any children.. Funny - how people that don't have any kids always have advice for people that have them..  Teaching my children to be better then me - is the ultimate goal.. have a better job - career - don't make the same mistakes as myself.. Wanting more for your children is the prime goal is raising children.  

What you fail to realize - what is good for you - may not be good for me - there is not need in explain it to you..

You say patato I say patatoe.. You thumb through issues for the sake of justifying your outlook on things..

You tell me your friend changed your mind.. Well maybe you didn't believe in the first place.. Nothing can change my mind - if I firmly believe in something.. Regardless if Im wrong - I rather deal with someone who stands firm on their beliefs then them being wishy washy and passive and I not know if they are coming or going..  

You can't change my views or try to break them down in your little cubes... I am who I am..

I would respect a klansman beliefs - because I know exactly where he was coming from.. But I would have no respect for a person that tries to hide their prejudice - Be loyal to something..

Don't question my loyality - Its not for you to understand anyway..

[andwhat]

Pmoney,
you said that history is just the facts and doesn't glorify the good and the bad. But i have to argue that one. History has always and will always be written by the winners. How different of a story would we know of WW II if we were to read an account written by a Nazi? History is the study of the past and peole's interpretation of it. History is not de facto what happened. It is how we view what happened and so it does reflect good and bad. In fact in recent news a minor international incident just arose out fo Japan's account of WW II and there overlooking of their atrocities in Asia. History is always about good and bad. Take Columbus Day, we celebrate it. You work for the gov't you get off. Columbus day is supposed to be a good thing. And yet it led to the destructioon of the native american culture. Unless you are reading from a totally unbiased source, i.e. you are the archeologist out finding the evidence and deciphering it, you are always learning what someone else thinks about the situation.
AS for the not letting your kids decide, if you completly determine what they can and cannot be exposed to until they become adults wihtout any of their input, they will be so socially inept and sheltered by the time that they reach adulthood they will probably make decisions just to rebel against your controlling. All of us have seen friends who were sheltered growing up and once they get out on their own they drastically change just to be able to try new things and rebel. It can be incredibly dangerous. Thats what we're trying to get you to see is that you should discuss with your kids and find out what they want, not rule wiht an oironfist. If they've looked at the books and hate them, great don't see the movie. but if you arbitrarily decide that they shouldn't be allowed to be exposed to them without any actual first hand knowledge, then thats a problem.
Oh and Jimmy, yous gots kids? Are they mine?
Christy, a friend of mine saw the movie over the weekend and really disliked. She thought that it couldn't compare to what she had imagined.

[Christy]

TT, what the heck was that?  I don't think anyone was questioning your loyalty.  They are merely trying to understand what it is about Harry Potter that you dislike, and if you dislike the books/movie because you've actually read them or if it's because of what someone has told you about them?

There is an incredible amount of misinformation going around in regards to the Harry Potter books.  They don't promote Satanism anymore than "The Lion the Witch and the Wardrobe"did.  They are essentially the same premise, except that a renowned Christian writer wrote about witches and magic wardrobes for the entertainment of kids instead of an out of work single mother.  

I think people are just trying to understand the rationale behind your logic.  I don't think the intent was to insult you.

Harry Potter is the standard fantasy story of "good vs evil", and good always prevails.  Not much different than "Snow White" or "Cinderella".

[andwhat]

the problem with wanting your kids not to make the smae mistakkes that you did, is that you become so protective that you don't let them make any mistakes so that any filure because horrible to them even though its a necessary part of life. Mistakes and failure are what truly makes us who we are. how we deal with adversity and failure is more important than what we do when we succed. Yuo say that you would respect a Klansmen beliefs b/c at leats he's not wishy washy and would rather that. Does that mean that you would rather have a religious fundamentalist fly a plane into a building in the name of allah and kill 5,000 people then someone who is open to other opinions and can be talked out of it and see the flaws in their thought?  You may disagree with their logic or the thinking of the majority but certainly you must realize that you aren't always right. surely you have had someone talk you out of something and afterward be glad they did. If not then you must be some sort of perfect human being/superhero in which case why are you wasting your time on Southern Maryland online debating a kids movie?

[AnonymousPenguin]

I think that what Jimmy & And & Company are wanting here...is some substance as to the reasons why TT prohibits her children from watching this movie or reading the books...  She has clearly stated that she would not do so.  If her kids don't wanna see this movie anyway, then that's ok.  <b>If</b> her kids do wanna see it, it seems that she will object.  She says that it is because of her Christian beliefs.  Maybe pointing out exactly <i>how</i> things in the movie are not approved by her will help.

I don't think that Jimmy & Company are trying to bash TT for her decisions...they just wanna know WHY....

[PmoneyandTT]

Well since no one has read my past postings..

I refuse to post what I discuss with my children.. Our relationship is open.. Enough said on that.. My children aren't sheltered.  I did say that also..

Why are you trying to change my mind about a stupid movie.. Its a movie.. More money for the industry.. About History - I did say you read it and interpret it the way you see it.. I didn't live in those times - so honestly whom ever story I read - it will be bias anyway - its all opinions.. But the fact is those people existed - what they did might be the question.. But I believe George Washington existed - Queen Elizabeth existed - King Tut exisited - Harriet Tubman existed.. Now what they did in their lives - Can be all opinions.. But when my children are learning in school.. and the history teacher ask them a question on a test - they simply can't say - well I don't believe what these books are telling me - so I refuse to take the test.. They will flunk out of school..

We have a system - that we have to follow - regardless if we agree or not.. You can't go through a red light - you will get a ticket or cause an accident.. Reading history doesn't mean your getting facts or non-facts.. Your interested in something that may or may not of happened.. Harry Potter is fiction.. I want them to have some knowledge about the world.. Not if we can find waldo or not..

Columbus day - Oh please - thats a free day off for me.. Columbus was probably alot of things - but you know what I wasn't there - so regardless what story you want to believe its about your decision...

Thats what Im trying to tell you - Its a decision you make as a individual.. I am making a individual decision.. Where is the argument in that?

[Christy]

andwhat, my friend said it was exactly how he'd imagined it.  I reckon, everyone has their own unique imagination, so some will like it, some will hate it.

I just want to see it soon, and I really wish she'd hurry up on the new book!