Actors/Actresses & Politics

[vraiblonde]

The issue was whether celebrities who use their fame to get people to part with money have a responsibility (there's that word again) to make sure the cause is legitimate.  In this case, most of the money collected never got to the victims.  No one seems to know what happened to it.

I personally think they should but that's not why I raise my eyebrows at Clooney.  O'Reilly brought this up on his show and asked a legitimate question (the one above).  Clooney got all defensive and released a statement disparaging O'Reilly and calling him a few names to boot.  By contrast, Kurt Russell and Goldie Hawn came on The Factor and shared O'Reilly's concerns, saying they, too, would like to know what happened to the money they helped raise.

It was Clooney's attitude and handling of the whole situation that makes me not want to give him any of my entertainment money.    However I will go out and rent <i>Big Trouble in Little China</i> again.

[SxyPrincess]

CLOONEY IS THE MAN!!!!!!!!!  HE CAN PLAY ME ANY DAY!!!!  

[ShellyCW]

I would never advocate revoking free speech, however that doesn't mean I, personally, don't get annoyed with entertainers who get on a soap box.

"Or maybe some names of entertainers that elect to bend people's ears.. "
One good example is the former band Rage Against the Machine.  They raged on and on about such things as oppressive governments, uneven distribution of wealth, and greedy multinational corporations with their record contract from Sony.  There are other musicians who rail against similar issues, yet operate through independent music labels.

"I guess I could be funny and say - Is Jesse jackson a preacher or politician. A married man or single man. "
Touché.  (I know I'm a new member, so I just want to say that I understand these are just debates and not personal.)

[vraiblonde]

My boycotts extend to the comics as well.  I used to like The Boondocks, even though it plays into racial stereotypes that I don't care for.  Then I watched a televised lecture that the little Socialist/Commie who writes it gave at some University - made me raised my eyebrows.  Then the comic writers were doing a 9-11 commemoration day in their strips - The Boondocks guy decided that would be a good time to draw a parallel between bin Laden and Bush.  I haven't read him since.

[PmoneyandTT]

If I remember correctly - after this whole big 911 fund - the money is being distribute.  Well I guess Clooney doesn't like O'Reilly to well.. I suppose people like using their power - like Deejay wanting to ban Kazamm from the forum - because of something they didn't like personally.  Tell me who doesn't use their "place" in life to get things across - whether its for the good or the bad.  

I know people are going to use their emotional and personal issues to lash out at others.  Its being done everyday on this forum.. I was born at the end of Vietnam war - but I have heard stories that Jane Fonda said or did some crazy stuff concerning that..

And that other lady I think frank was referring too.. Isn't she the one that shaved her head?  Well Ireland now thats a big ole mess.. Maybe her music wasn't selling that great from the beginning..  Remember michael Jackson with the big child molesting case - well he is still making records - and he is still doing award shows - and other projects.. Im sure the 80's gave him much more revenue - but his career is still going.   I personal don't think (Clooney) that is going to hurt his career in any way.  P.Diddy didn't get hurt with the murder trial - Neither did Jennifer Lopez with association. Suge Knight is an ex-gang member - been to jail many times. And his record company is still going strong.  Snoop Dogg has been in and out of court - people are still buying his records.  

It seems to me - the generation thats growing up now between my age and younger - don't care what these people have done in their personal lives - all they want is to be entertained.  If you don't buy their records or go to their movies - 10 others will.

[StillCrazy]

Quote: from PmoneyandTT on 7:27 am on Jan. 10, 2002[br]I suppose people like using their power - like Deejay wanting to ban Kazamm from the forum - because of something they didn't like personally. #

Tell me why this is relavent in this topic? I don't see it as anything other than stirring th pot.

[PmoneyandTT]

maybe it is stirring the pot.. People seem to point fingers at others(famous or not) - but others that are right here - are doing the same exact thing... Thats the point I was making..


They said it not me - they said they can ban Kazamm because they can - Well Clooney can make those remarks because he can. Best thing I ever learned from Dept of Justice - Use their own laws/reports/accusations/judgements of others - to show them they can't point the finger at anyone - because they are doing the exact samething.

[StillCrazy]

Ok, you agreed, stirring the pot. Again, why is it relevant here, and why do we need to deal with it almost constantly?

[PmoneyandTT]

Deal with what constantly?  People judging others all the time.  Thats constantly - thats what Im pointing out..

[Frank]

"And that other lady I think frank was referring too.. Isn't she the one that shaved her head? #Well Ireland now thats a big ole mess.. Maybe her music wasn't selling that great from the beginning.. "

The shaved head thing was *always* her thing. And she was pretty big, at the time (I don't see what Ireland being a mess has to do with anything).

She ripped up a picture of the Pope on Saturday Night Live, reciting the lines "fight the real enemy", repeatedly. (She has since apologized for this incident). It effectively ended her career. Oh she did other stuff to offend people, but that was the big one.

THE POINT is - she made a political statement, and people stopped buying her stuff. Career over. She's not the only one to do this, but she was the first one to come to MY mind.

Is this good, or bad? It's not squelching of free speech. *Everyone* who professes an unpopular opinion has GOT to realize that there are consequences. You may even be *right*, morally. Doesn't matter. It's a price. If an actor goes on TV and extols the virtues of Nazism - if his career tanks, that is the price. Some personalities have accepted this, and STILL pursued their cause, anyway. Those, I respect. I don't respect those who tout their cause because they think it will cause people to embrace their stardom.