Justyn Sayne

[JustynSayneBand]

Originally Posted by watercolor

Again, as I said before, Dwight, I am trying to give you the benefit of the doubt here- and seeing if you can give me a reason to change my friends mind. But you are really not showing me a reason. I posted the information that I had gotten, that you were not that "great" with them, when the person talked to you- and maybe you were having an off day, or whatever, and I am willing, again to give the benefit of doubt here- hence the reason I posted what I posted, and asked specifically if someone could make claim that you really aren't a jerk. Maybe you didnt want to deal with the genre they played? I dont know. Maybe its not your style, which is fine, and perfectly legit, and maybe you didnt want to promote that style, which to each their own...but, the way they are feeling is not very good, and to have 1 bad apple to deal with, can say alot- seeing as word gets around fast. hence the reason I was asking for someone to lay claim that you weren't a sucky arse person.

And I am not jesse. so feel free to acknowledge that now.

Ok, that's fine. However, if you were looking for some real background info, on who I am and how I am to deal with in a personal, and professional respect, I don't think you had to be quite so direct with your post, after all, you already made a misunderstanding a bad situation for everyone. The simplest thing to do is ask someone if they knew who I was and how was to work with, you went a bit overboard with your post.

I am recalling a dealing I had with a band some weeks ago and I gave them my professional and honest opinion, they asked for it. Now, if they felt it was not what they wanted to hear, then they took it personally, and not as professionally minded critisism, there are alot more people doing what I am doing, and SCR is minnow in a sea of whales, so they should have laughed me off and went elsewhere, it's how it works, I'm a musician, I Know!

Now, all of those conversations are between myself and my clients, or possible clients, where you fit in, is not a needed factor in the equation, if you're not a part of the parties involved in the situation, then you should not make public comments until you have first spoken with me in person. If you felt you needed to find out more about who the situation, the you had no need to be slanderous about it. The email I got from this Jesse guy was a direct attack, and a personal one at that, with no factual information.

[JustynSayneBand]

Originally Posted by chess

watercolor is a female and went to highschool with me. Therefore I know shes not a dude and her name isnt jesse !

I have completely accepted the fact that Watercolor is not a Jesse, HOWEVER, I am making the point that Watercolor, has involved herself in something she knows nothing about, therefore, we have this fiasco that should have never gotten started in the first place. I have already put out a call to the Moderator to delete this entire post because it's got nothing to nothing anyway.

[JustynSayneBand]

Originally Posted by Deal_With_It

does anyone here understand WTF is going on??

I do... she got her snout stuck where it don't belong... LOL!

[JustynSayneBand]

Originally Posted by JustynSayneBand

I do... she got her snout stuck where it don't belong... LOL!

She is obviously a friend of a band that contacted me some time ago and she doesn't like what I said. I assure you all it was nothing rude or vulgar, simply an honest opinion, and now she just wants to make SCR look bad in front of every one, but, that's just not the case. I'm a laid back, really nice guy, who has nothing but good intentions for the local music scene, always have always will, but, I just don't understand what her issue is.

[watercolor]

I was not being slanderous. If I were to be slanderous- would be me, outright dealing with you and then calling you every name in the book, and then following to every local gig, and then making sure that you were to never be recognized in a good fashion again. But, I was not doing that- I was rather asking for a repore on how you deal, and how your business deals with people- because with me, being around this particular band all the time- and hearing all the juice with what is going on in their "band lives".. I was hoping- because of the local label status- that I could change their minds about you. period. That is all. But you want to make it into something more than it is. And being direct- is better than beating around the bush...and lollygaggin around with bs, when it is something that someone could have said a) he sucks, dont deal with him, they are better off without him or b) give the guy a chance, he is really great to work with, and he is giving me/my band a great opportunity, and I am really diggin him.

I was asking for a detail on you/your ways of promoting and how you were, and what better place to do it- on a southern maryland forum, where I have seen your name plastered before. Also, getting a public disclosure about you/your actions/your business that you run is a way to make sure that you work with the public well. And when you say you are going to run something such as a local label, wouldnt that be something that you would want to try hard to keep upstanding and in good fashion? If you are only willing to deal with certain genre's and or certain areas of music, they you should make that well known and make your philosophy VERY CLEAR before people come to you looking for a way to market themselves.

[watercolor]

Originally Posted by JustynSayneBand

She is obviously a friend of a band that contacted me some time ago and she doesn't like what I said. I assure you all it was nothing rude or vulgar, simply an honest opinion, and now she just wants to make SCR look bad in front of every one, but, that's just not the case. I'm a laid back, really nice guy, who has nothing but good intentions for the local music scene, always have always will, but, I just don't understand what her issue is.

Actually, what I know of it all, is that they didnt like the way you presented what you did, and I chose on my own standing to find out what the deal was, and to see if you would be worth a second chance and for them not to get their panties in a bunch if it wasnt needed.

And I am in no way out to make you look bad- I wanted to know more about you- and what your were. But it is not showing you are this laid back dude with really nice intentions. I am all about supporting local businesses and seeing their endevors rise- but this is not going in the direction is should be.

[JustynSayneBand]

Originally Posted by watercolor

If you are only willing to deal with certain genre's and or certain areas of music, they you should make that well known and make your philosophy VERY CLEAR before people come to you looking for a way to market themselves.

But I did, I have more than directly stated that SCR only has the current direction of working with original rock bands in the Southern Maryland area. I never said a thing about opera, rap, hip-hop, country, etc. So, the band came to me as a rock band, they asked for my opinion, I told them how they could improve on their marketability, I'm sorry, if they did not care for my opinion, then, like I said before, they could have went elsewhere, instead we end with this garbage, it's uncalled for.

I am not making any invalid arguments, I will however, defend my name and my business when I get publicly attacked for no reason, and by someone who does not have the first hand facts of the conversation between myself and the band, that's just a nose in the wrong place. Longer story short, I told them what they could do, and they chose to not go that direction, that's it, end of story, if they chose to not take my opinions, then we're done, if in the future they decide I might have been right, then the offer is back on the table, it's still open on my end, so, what's all this filler content have to do with anything?

Please message me on Yahoo at: justynsayne

[maylinduplantis]

before this thread gets deleted lets just put some things to rest...

Dwight, just for the record, I'm Jesse...

and before you ask: watercolor did read the email you sent me, but only after she posted this thread... I gave her your name to pass it along to a few people yesterday after sending you the email which you so nicely posted... she then got information on her own from someone else and posted this thread... I then I received the email you had sent back to me and I had to share it with her... i know the timing was a little weird but thanks for assuming though

my two paragraph email that I sent (as everyone can read) had one paragraph of constructive criticism and one paragraph of praise on what you're doing... to which you responded with a rather lengthy email in response filled with sarcasm and total disrespect... we're not in the same business, but again: thanks for assuming though

your attitude here, with me and with the group watercolor is talking about clearly speaks volume of your "professionalism"

and also, just so you know, I gave your name to a few people before I got your response but, hey some people can handle a little criticism from time to time... I am sorry you can't... but, in the end of it all, I'll let them make their own decisions on how to handle you because my opinion is just that: my opinion...

[JustynSayneBand]

Originally Posted by watercolor

Actually, what I know of it all, is that they didnt like the way you presented what you did, and I chose on my own standing to find out what the deal was, and to see if you would be worth a second chance and for them not to get their panties in a bunch if it wasnt needed.

And I am in no way out to make you look bad- I wanted to know more about you- and what your were. But it is not showing you are this laid back dude with really nice intentions. I am all about supporting local businesses and seeing their endevors rise- but this is not going in the direction is should be.

Then you should have contacted me directly and asked me the questions you wanted to ask me. Instead of wasting more time on other peoples opinions, you should have went directly to the source, instead you decided to publicy announce false comments, Like this, this comment you made, this is all hearsay, you DO NOT KNOW how the conversation went, this is not even close"

"But now- I am curious as to why and how they are doing business when, the person who is the owner is a rude, and pompous jerk. Through the grapevine- of people I have had the pleasure of meeting, and hearing their stuff- they went to contact this "owner" in persuance.... only to be treated like dirt-"

This is pure garbage, you're making statements that are not true.

[maylinduplantis]

Originally Posted by JustynSayneBand

Then you should have contacted me directly and asked me the questions you wanted to ask me. Instead of wasting more time on other peoples opinions, you should have went directly to the source, instead you decided to publicy announce false comments, Like this, this comment you made, this is all hearsay, you DO NOT KNOW how the conversation went, this is not even close"

"But now- I am curious as to why and how they are doing business when, the person who is the owner is a rude, and pompous jerk. Through the grapevine- of people I have had the pleasure of meeting, and hearing their stuff- they went to contact this "owner" in persuance.... only to be treated like dirt-"

This is pure garbage, you're making statements that are not true.

hell, i wasn't doing business with you and you were a rude and pompous jerk... and, I know the people she talked to... I'd believe them over anything you'd say anyway because you would of been "oh, I'm a nice guy... blah blah self promoting blah" because any good business man would of done the same...

so, she's actually making true statements...