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Old 02-03-2004, 05:57 PM   #1 (permalink)
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The Democrats and WMD

In My Opinion
by Trevor Bothwell



David Kay, who resigned last week as chief U.S. weapons investigator in Iraq, came to the conclusion recently that "we are very unlikely to find large stockpiles of weapons. I don't think they exist."

Predictably, the Bush-lied-us-into-war crowd considers this proof that President Bush knew full well that Saddam Hussein didn't possess weapons of mass destruction, but dragged the country into war anyway.

On the contrary, Kay reported last June his suspicions that he would find chemical and biological weapons rather quickly. These suspicions were gleaned largely from interviews with Iraqi scientists and international intelligence agencies, all of which believed Saddam possessed these weapons.

That weapons stockpiles have not yet been found in Iraq should not so clearly indicate that Bush knowingly lied about their existence as it should point out that he -- not to mention Great Britain, France, Russia, Germany, and the United Nations Security Council -- fell victim to the same inaccurate intelligence information as did Mr. Kay. In fact, last Monday (January 26) David Kay told Tom Brokaw, "I think if anyone was abused by the intelligence, it was the president of the United States rather than the other way around."

Now that all indications seem to be pointing to John Kerry gaining his party's nomination for president, it will be interesting to watch the seemingly distant hopefuls -- not to mention other liberals like Ted Kennedy who have already slung accusations Bush's way regarding WMD -- to see to what lengths they'll go to try to spin Kay's remarks into further proof that Bush is a lying liar.

But just for the record, here are what prominent Democrats have had to say about the existence of Saddam's weapons programs over the years (since the war was drummed up in Tax-is, after all):

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction." -- President Bill Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998.

"(Saddam Hussein) will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has 10 times since 1983." -- Sandy Berger, national security adviser to President Clinton, Feb. 18, 1998.

"We urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction program." -- Letter to President Clinton, signed by Sens. Tom Daschle and John Kerry, among others, Oct. 9, 1998.

"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process." -- Rep. Nancy Pelosi, Dec. 16, 1998.

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction." -- John Rockefeller (D-W. Va.), ranking minority member of the Intelligence Committee, Oct. 10, 2002.

"We know that (Hussein) has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country." -- Former V.P. Al Gore, during a speech in September 2002.

And finally...

"We have known for many years [many years!] that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction." -- Sen. Ted Kennedy, Sept. 27, 2002.

"I agree with President Bush -- he has said that Saddam Hussein is evil. And he is. (Hussein) is a vicious dictator and a documented deceiver. He has invaded his neighbors, used chemical arms and failed to account for all the chemical and biological weapons he had before the Gulf War. He has murdered dissidents and refused to comply with his obligations under U.N. Security Council Resolutions. And he has tried to build a nuclear bomb. Anyone who believes in the importance of limiting the spread of weapons of mass killing, the value of democracy, and the centrality of human rights must agree that Saddam Hussein is a menace. The world would be a better place if he were in a different place other than the seat of power in Baghdad or any other country. So I want to be clear. Saddam Hussein must disarm. This is not a debate; it is a given." -- Former Vermont Governor Howard Dean, February 2003, during a speech at Drake University.

"There's no question that ... there have been such contacts (between Iraq and al Qaeda). It's normal. It's natural. These are a lot of bad actors in the same region together. They are going to bump into each other. They are going to exchange information. They're going to feel each other out and see whether there are opportunities to cooperate. That's inevitable in this region, and I think it's clear that, regardless of whether or not such evidence is produced of these connections, that Saddam Hussein is a threat." -- Gen. Wesley Clark, Sept. 26, 2002, testifying before the House Armed Services Committee.

"We did not empower the president to do regime change," -- John Kerry on "Meet the Press," after supporting legislation in 2002 specifically citing regime change in Iraq.

For purposes of full disclosure, I've never thought the president's decision to invade Iraq should have hinged so heavily on the existence of weapons of mass destruction, if for no other reason than the failure to find them would provide the current fodder Democrats are now using to paint him as a warmonger. However, President Bush is fighting a just war, removing a brutal dictator who has manufactured chemical and biological weapons, used them against his neighbors and his own people, and contributed to the volatility of an unstable Middle East.

That said, keep this list handy once the debates heat up and the Democrats' television ads begin to air in more frequency as we draw ever nearer the November election. Then decide for yourselves which candidates are committed to keeping us safe, and which are merely committed to keeping a job.


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Trevor Bothwell is editor of The Right Report and and is a Townhall.com book reviewer. He is also co-founder of The Political Divide, a new political blog site. He is a former elementary school teacher and college instructor.
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Trevor, I loved your column but we've already established that Democrats all have Alzheimer's disease. The ones running for office don't remember what they said from one minute to the next and their followers don't remember recent history. We actually have one woman on here that doesn't believe Saddam used chemical weapons on the Kurds - she said it was media hype.

There are several Sharpton acolytes over on the DU who have never heard of Tawana Brawley.

It's like aliens came down from outer space and erased their hard drive. It's like Justin Timberlake blaming a costume malfunction, when 90 million people saw him reach over and pull JJ's bra cup off.

It's just frightening and weird.
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Trevor, I loved your column but we've already established that Democrats all have Alzheimer's disease. The ones running for office don't remember what they said from one minute to the next and their followers don't remember recent history. We actually have one woman on here that doesn't believe Saddam used chemical weapons on the Kurds - she said it was media hype.

There are several Sharpton acolytes over on the DU who have never heard of Tawana Brawley.

It's like aliens came down from outer space and erased their hard drive. It's like Justin Timberlake blaming a costume malfunction, when 90 million people saw him reach over and pull JJ's bra cup off.

It's just frightening and weird.
I can't wait until they are called on it. Let the squirming begin. Problem is thier followers have amnesia as well. I just hope we outnumber them.
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Trevor, I loved your column but we've already established that Democrats all have Alzheimer's disease. The ones running for office don't remember what they said from one minute to the next and their followers don't remember recent history. We actually have one woman on here that doesn't believe Saddam used chemical weapons on the Kurds - she said it was media hype.

There are several Sharpton acolytes over on the DU who have never heard of Tawana Brawley.

It's like aliens came down from outer space and erased their hard drive. It's like Justin Timberlake blaming a costume malfunction, when 90 million people saw him reach over and pull JJ's bra cup off.

It's just frightening and weird.

Well I guess you are referring to me as "the lady" on here. I didn't say it wasn't chemicals -- I said where are the chemicals that killed the kurds in their 1988 genocide? Where did all the stockpiles of wmds go if they really existed? Saddam is a mean person but there are other mean people in the world as well. My point was we went in for the lucrative no-bid oil contracts. Why don't we exert the same effort finding Osoma? Where's the AlQueda deck of cards????? What about going after the drug czars in Columbia that bring in cocain - they too are killing people by the way.

No I don't have alzheimer's - I thought that was a republican trait -- contra hearings in the late 80s
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I can't wait until they are called on it. Let the squirming begin. Problem is thier followers have amnesia as well. I just hope we outnumber them.
Well Pete you do outnumber them on this somd cite because most the people here (as I've recently realized) are either 1) in the military or 2) have a military member in the family.

Now, if the people on welfare, the minorities, the people that live alternative lifestyles, and the uninsured had a webcite, I'm sure there would be a forum very opposite in beliefs than those found on this webcite.
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Well Pete you do outnumber them on this somd cite because most the people here (as I've recently realized) are either 1) in the military or 2) have a military member in the family.

Now, if the people on welfare, the minorities, the people that live alternative lifestyles, and the uninsured had a webcite, I'm sure there would be a forum very opposite in beliefs than those found on this webcite.
Good news, I managed to use an assumed name to register to vote again. This fella came and helped me fill out the paperwork, then drove me over to the place to register, gave me a ham sammich and told me he would be picking me up in November to vote 2 times. His jacket said "DNC" Florida Task Force.
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Good news, I managed to use an assumed name to register to vote again. This fella came and helped me fill out the paperwork, then drove me over to the place to register, gave me a ham sammich and told me he would be picking me up in November to vote 2 times.
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Good news, I managed to use an assumed name to register to vote again. This fella came and helped me fill out the paperwork, then drove me over to the place to register, gave me a ham sammich and told me he would be picking me up in November to vote 2 times. His jacket said "DNC" Florida Task Force.
Go ahead Pete - I'm sure its Carl Rove just doing that for the media underneath the jacket and plans on drugging you with the Ham Sandwhich. Even if it was DNC -- its not like those votes in those 500 boxes worth will make it anywere if they come from a poor district only the affluent or military. But have heart, they will be discovered in a few months and by then its too late. All you can do then is file a civil suit and receive an oops, apology.
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Old 02-05-2004, 12:26 PM   #9 (permalink)
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"Now, if the people on welfare, the minorities, the people that live alternative lifestyles, and the uninsured had a webcite, I'm sure there would be a forum very opposite in beliefs than those found on this webcite."


You can't swing a dead cat without hitting one of their websites...

strange that we miltary types are the ones that are fighting this fight in Iraq and we seem to think It's worth it..

I shutter to think what would have happened if the WTC came tumbling down with Al Gore sitting in the White House...
 
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You can't swing a dead cat without hitting one of their websites...

strange that we miltary types are the ones that are fighting this fight in Iraq and we seem to think It's worth it..

I shutter to think what would have happened if the WTC came tumbling down with Al Gore sitting in the White House...
You might want to sit down for this -- my opinion is that under Gore he would have hired experienced people to top level cabinet positions - not as a kick back for providing legal services in Gore v. Bush in Florida. I don't however hold Bush responsible, I hold CIA Tenant responsible. He should have long been fired by now (unless he has something to blackmail president about???)
1) He was clueless prior to 9/11 and just focused on Iraq intelligence (or lack thereof).
2) He was clueless regarding the anthrax crisis and we have never pinned this guy down either
3) He made up the story about Nigeria providing weapons to Iraq that was quoted in last years state of the union
4) He has been prooved wrong in everything else that is supposed to be based on his Iraq assumptions of WMD
5) Did he help at all in tracking snipers or was that just chief moose?
5) now this Risin thing which again will go unsolved.

What exactly is Tenant doing other than consuming space at the CIA??
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