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| Registered User Member Since: Feb 2004 Location: Leonardtown, MD
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| I must say that I disagree with your thought that liberalism amounts to anti-Americanism. It is this sort of opinion that has caused this nation to be so divided between the red and blue. Yes there are some liberals that are anti-American...the statements of some liberal websites concerning Pat Tillman were absolutely awful and the inability of some liberals to discuss the greatness of our troops are terrible stains on the entire ideology. These people are not an accurate representation of the entire liberal ideology or even most of them for that matter. The same could be said for the most conservative parts of our society as well...their thoughts are wholly un-American as well. Sometimes we try to take the fringe elements of both ideologies and try to paint everyone else who is in the same sort of ideology as the exact same. This is a disservice to the patriotic liberals and conservatives as well as a disservice to truth. John Kerry does not make a good counterpoint concerning the questioning of his votes on defense systems. The attacks are not meant to attack his patriotism they are questioning his judgement. Rather than run away from that debate Kerry should embrace it for he has damn good points. At the time the weapons systems were costing billions of dollars to an already deficit running national treasury and their effectiveness was questionable. Kerry should discuss that and not just run away - after all is his slogan not bring it on? The Republicans are not questioning his patriotism because it is understood that he does truly love this nation. I do not see how a thirty year public servant and volunteer for the Vietnam War could hate this nation. What I think is mistaken here in this column is the difference of viewpoint between liberals and conservatives. Conservatives generally see America as fine the way it is - not much change is needed. Liberals meanwhile have a very different viewpoint - that America is great but could be greater. This is what John F. Kennedy said in the sixties and some would say he was unpatriotic but those who are smart would know that he was a true American hero and patriot. So Mr. Bothwell I am sorry but I just do not see it your way.
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| I was in a debate with a Left winger the other day when she admitted to believing Socialism would be a good thing. So there I thought OK, well this conversation is over because you are obviously delusional. |
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What do you say to someone who thinks like that? ![]()
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__________________ Democracy is not a spectator sport. "Some men see things the way they are and ask 'why?' I see things that never have been and ask 'why not?'" Robert F. Kennedy | |
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__________________ Democracy is not a spectator sport. "Some men see things the way they are and ask 'why?' I see things that never have been and ask 'why not?'" Robert F. Kennedy | |
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Just to talk a little about our economy here. Our economic system cannot be labeled a pure market economy. True capitalism does not exist in our nation thankfully today (it did in the late 1800s and early 1900s when children had to work 18 hour days and meat was made from rats). We have a mixed system that combines economic independence of capitalism and some common sense regulation from a socialist system. This combination that we have in this nation for our economy has worked great for us over the past hundred years and whoever says that we need to move more socialist or move back to the old system of unchecked capitalism is gravely mistaken.
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