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| Good column, Trevor This statement, in particular, bears repeating:Quote:
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| http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...14.html#friday I found one liberal whose stance on Graham was based on principle instead of hysteria. He makes the good point that WMAL acted with cowardice: Quote:
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...so let start a discussion here; WMAL is NOT one of the people. It is a corporation. Not only that, it is a communications corporation. So, my question is simple; Is a corporation due the exact rights and protections as a citizen? I say not. OSAHA comes in there and makes sure that the microphones are grounded properly and there is a handicaped ramp for the front door. This is obviously to protect the rights of the individual, not the company. Where is the right, in the Constitution, to a safe work place and how does it trump another right, to free speech or to carry a firearm? This isn't some trucking company where a driver has decided to set aside his job, driving, and decided to take up speaking out on the issues of the day instead...and still expecting to be paid. This is a person paid specifically to talk about issues, read the news and so on. Why wouldn't they just do a station editorial saying the company disagrees with what he said but is very happy and excited that a full discusion, from all sides, is fosterd by the station, to the benefit of all? Why should they have some 'right' as an independent entity to just fire the guy if they are a bunch of cowards who aren't even acting indenpendently; they're cowering to some outside group who now, ostensibly, set policy for this 'private' enterprise. What next? Will this group, who may be citizens but as a defined group are no more a 'citizen' than the station is, dicate what is served in the company kitchen or candy machines? WMAL is NOT a citizen.
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and what are you going to do?All Reds is doing is partaking in a Constitutional right. But it could negatively impact your business. Can you tell him, "Reds, knock it off or you're fired"? Regardless that I agree with Michael Graham about Islam, WMAL has a right to not want to rouse the rabble and cause problems with their station.
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| I think that the Graham case shows once again why we're not going to win any kind of war against Islamic terrorists. It shows once again how we as a nation are too squeemish to deal with any issue relating to religion in any kind of a negative way. The Islamic leaders are free to do and say whatever they like, and if an American responds in kind, the Islamic leaders clutch the pearls, cry out their victimhood, and the voice of opposition gets squashed in the name of "we don't want to lower ourselves to that level." Meanwhile, the Islamic leaders keep to their message and gain more supporters as they point to guys like Graham as an example of anti-Islamic attitudes in the US. In short, they win it all. What would be better is exactly what Larry was calling for, that being an approach of "what say you Islamic leaders? You've just been accused of inciting violence, and that your religion sponsors terrorism, so what can you offer in your defense?" By holding their feet to the fire, and making them publically accountable for their actions, we could win a battle every now and again. Instead we hand them the laurels rather than dare to appear uncaring about any religion, regardless of how violent they are. I say freedom of speech be damned. This was not an infringement on freedom of speech, but rather a tactical loss in the war on terror. Last edited by Bruzilla : 08-29-2005 at 12:30 PM. |
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| I kind of wonder why they'd cave in to the likes of CAIR. I mean, what'd they do? Say "hey, we SOOO are NOT terrorists, but if you don't fire that schmuck, we're gonna bus' you up!". What if WMAL just said - no. No, we'll keep him. Screw you. What could CAIR do? Prove Graham *right*? (I've read on the Net that some place in LA has re-hired him. Good on them!) |
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