Can Atheists Be Parents?

[Kyle (Premo)]

Originally Posted by Larry Gude

Small business v. corporations so to speak.

Now you had to go and bring math into it!... You're trying to make his head explode, aren't you?

[Larry Gude (Premo)]

Originally Posted by Kyle

Now you had to go and bring math into it!... You're trying to make his head explode, aren't you?

...like I said, it's a fascinating point in American history that, I think, has an awful lot of relevance to the rest of American history from then to today and beyond.

It provides the truly American prism to view things through.

[godsbutterfly]

Back to the subject of "Atheists as Parents" - this couple was allowed to adopt a son despite their lack of religious beliefs. They had the little girl with them for nearly a year and a half and now the Court is raising their eyebrows and saying "Well, we just don't know about this - they don't have any religion going on in that household." like it's some big surprise they just found out about. To take this girl from the only home she has known for nearly 18 months because her parents are not taking her to church or providing her or her brother with religious instruction is wrong. Hopefully as the children get older the option to choose to learn about religion will be left open to them and they can make their own decisions. Tearing this family apart is not the answer.

[nhboy (Premo)]

Originally Posted by Larry Gude

...like I said, it's a fascinating point in American history that, I think, has an awful lot of relevance to the rest of American history from then to today and beyond.

It provides the truly American prism to view things through.

Found a site with maps to go with the math.

What is a Map? -- Mapping Slavery in America

[This_person]

Originally Posted by mAlice

I'd say yes. More so than the priests who are molesting children.

Originally Posted by mAlice

People who like to point out the transgressions of others seem conveniently forget about their own.

Just thought this was a funny sequence of posts. No offense.

[This_person]

Originally Posted by Dye Tied

We are talking about the fact the atheists can have morals and ethics, like so called good christians do, without some religion telling them what to believe is the one truth.

If they're "so called good Christians", wouldn't they also be "so called morals and ethics" for atheists?

I'm not fighting against atheists being parents. That's just stupid (to think they can't is stupid).

[This_person]

Originally Posted by Larry Gude

...and then, if there is a god, according to your logic, he/she/it must have come from somewhere/something, yes? Thus, god can not be god. And then, where did the thing/place god came from...come from? So, not even gods parents can be god. On and on and on.

So, God 'just is' makes it nice and tidy. Man is not meant to understand God, only obey, makes it even better. And yet, this magnificent omnipotent is not able to just sit down with me for five minutes, all of us, and say "I am going to send you to hell for all eternity if you don't join the correct religion and shape up."

Maybe he's afraid I'll start the whole thing all over again and ask where hell comes from?

But of course, God speaks to us all the time, I merely choose to not hear. So, off to hell I go. God gives us free will to ruin ourselves but he, like a parent who can't be bothered to spend time with their child says "Look, go read about it in a book or something. I'm busy."

Lilke a parent, have you ever spanked (or in some way punished) your kids? Do you believe you could have explained to your three year old why he/she shouldn't put a fork in an outlet, to a detail of understanding you seek regarding life, the universe, and everything (was it 47?)?

Maybe we are, comparitively speaking, the three year old. Maybe "hell" is a "time-out".

[This_person]

Originally Posted by mAlice

"All questions were once spiritual. Since the beginning of time, spirituality and religion have been called on to fill in the gaps that science did not understand. The rising and setting of the sun was once attributed to Helios and a flaming chariot. Earthquakes and tidal waves were the wrath of Poseidon. Science has now proven those gods to be false idols. Soon all gods will be proven to be false idols. Science has now provided answers to almost every question man can ask. There are only a few questions left and they are the esoteric ones. Where do we come from? What are we doing here? What is the meaning of life and the universe?"

Those are esoteric questions?

So, how exactly did muck come alive?

[This_person]

Originally Posted by Xaquin44

It's turtles all the way down.

I thought it was all ball bearings these days?

[This_person]

Originally Posted by Thor

Don't frigging start. The religious do not have a corner on the ethics market. And the man does believe in something I am sure, he probably believes empirical evidence and free thinking trumps indoctrination and mindless dogma.

The sanctimonious nature of the religious folks in this country is getting completely out of hand.

And, refering to religious belief as indoctrination, mindless dogma, fairy tales (not you, previous post), etc is not sanctimonious?

How about we each respect each other's beliefs? It's okay with me if you believe you have no soul, and your life is no more valuable than a mosquitos. That's your choice. That doesn't mean you shouldn't be a parent!