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Old 01-03-2008, 07:43 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Atheists don't believe in nothing. They just don't believe what organized religion says.
Actually, we pretty much believe in nothing, if referring to some sort of diety. I believe if I raise my child with honesty, she will learn honesty. If I raise her with integrity, she will learn integrity... I believe if I put in 40 hours at work, I'll get a check for that 40 hours, after uncle sam gets his cut. I believe if I treat my friends well, I will have good friends. I believe that some time during the winter, it will get cold...and I won't be able to find my gloves.
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Old 01-03-2008, 07:44 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Can you really have a moral compass with no foundation?

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I'd say yes. More so than the priests who are molesting children.
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Old 01-03-2008, 07:46 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Old 01-03-2008, 07:46 AM   #14 (permalink)
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I believe that.
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Old 01-03-2008, 07:47 AM   #15 (permalink)
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Can you really have a moral compass with no foundation?

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Why do you have believe in god to have morals? I know what is right and wrong. I'm sure back in the day, when they were making laws they had no way of enforcing them, so what better way to do it then to tell people that they would go to hell.
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Old 01-03-2008, 07:49 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Why do you have believe in god to have morals? I know what is right and wrong. I'm sure back in the day, when they were making laws they had no way of enforcing them, so what better way to do it then to tell people that they would go to hell.

One doesn't, but for some reason that keeps coming up. As if believing in a god automatically gives one a moral ethic, which it doesn't.
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One doesn't, but for some reason that keeps coming up. As if believing in a god automatically gives one a moral ethic, which it doesn't.
It seems to me that most people who beilieve in god think that it is ok to commit sins as long as they go to church and pray for forgiveness.
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Old 01-03-2008, 07:51 AM   #18 (permalink)
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Can you really have a moral compass with no foundation?

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Of course. Why do you need a church when you have your own mind to decide your morals? Can't you decide for yourself what you believe morally and teach your children that?
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Old 01-03-2008, 07:52 AM   #19 (permalink)
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Of course. Why do you need a church when you have your own mind to decide your morals? Can't you decide for yourself what you believe morally and teach your children that?

People who like to point out the transgressions of others seem conveniently forget about their own.
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Old 01-03-2008, 07:54 AM   #20 (permalink)
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It seems to me that most people who beilieve in god think that it is ok to commit sins as long as they go to church and pray for forgiveness.

Yes, that is how it seems to be. They feel fine as long as they feel they've been forgiven by an imaginary diety, regardless of how they messed up someone else's life. They need to remember that being forgiven by their imaginary friend does not take away the hurt or problems associated with the very human actions.
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