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Old 01-03-2008, 07:20 AM   #31 (permalink)
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I don't believe in Atheism....by that I mean if a self-proclaimed Atheist examines his/her beliefs in depth, they will discover something resembling a higher power in some form...
HOWEVER, that is completely irrelevant.

The point is, the state has no right to use this couple's lack of religion as a basis for denial of an adoption. What if they'd said they were Satan worshipers who believed in animal sacrifices? It's a recognized religion.

It beyond the scope of the State's authority to make having a religion a requirement of adoption.
How do you know what an atheist will discover?
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Old 01-03-2008, 07:21 AM   #32 (permalink)
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Please...tell me what I believe.
It has more to do with YOU telling me what you believe. But do you really want to get into this here? I don't because the religious freaks will be all over it and they are worse than anyone claiming to be Atheist.
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Old 01-03-2008, 07:21 AM   #33 (permalink)
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...a moral compass.

More specifically, let's define what values a child should be taught.

Honesty
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Sense of fairness
Work ethic
Ability to dream
Sense of identity as an American
Compassion

Thoughts?
I'd add "self reliance."

There are too many kids out there who leave high school and can't find there ass with both hands without mommy holding their wrists.
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Old 01-03-2008, 07:24 AM   #34 (permalink)
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I'd add "self reliance."

There are too many kids out there who leave high school and can't find there ass with both hands without mommy holding their wrists.

I think if one has a good work ethic, the rest just falls into place.
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Old 01-03-2008, 07:25 AM   #35 (permalink)
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It has more to do with YOU telling me what you believe. But do you really want to get into this here? I don't because the religious freaks will be all over it and they are worse than anyone claiming to be Atheist.

What I believe has been covered in this thread. If you can't comprehend it, that's your problem.
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Old 01-03-2008, 07:28 AM   #36 (permalink)
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Just to play devil's advocate:

How effective can a parent be, if he believes in nothing?
Just because someone doesn't believe, doesn't mean they don't have good morals and can't be good people.
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Old 01-03-2008, 07:30 AM   #37 (permalink)
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to answer the question

YES! Atheists should be able to adopt without the State telling them what they should believe to be able to raise a child.
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Old 01-03-2008, 07:31 AM   #38 (permalink)
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What I believe has been covered in this thread. If you can't comprehend it, that's your problem.
I comprehend it fine...I'm talking about different areas of belief. If I started getting into it, two things would happen, every my-religion-is-better-than-yours intolerant freak on here would jump in and claim to interpret what I'm asking is something else, they would answer the questions the "right" way and the point I'd be making would be lost.
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Just because someone doesn't believe, doesn't mean they don't have good morals and can't be good people.
Also, just because a person believes doesn't mean they will have good morals, and be good people.
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Old 01-03-2008, 07:31 AM   #40 (permalink)
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Where are all the bible pounders this moring


I was watching "I love the 80's" last night and they were talking about Oral Roberts. "Send me 8 million dollars or god is going to take me home" Idiots actually sent him 8 million
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