US Nears 4,000 Dead in Iraq

[nhboy (Premo)]

Originally Posted by cwo_ghwebb

If you want us folks to read what you read, then give us barf bags. Quote the death rate from Korea, Vietnam or other "President's Wars", and then come back and report your findings.

Get yourself an education and read something other than what affirms your beliefs that this horrible country would be so much better if only Socialists were in charge.

Then go out and get your first beer.

Forgive me if I repeat myself, I couldn't care less if you read what I post.

[ImnoMensa]

Originally Posted by nhboy

Forgive me if I repeat myself, I couldn't care less if you read what I post.

Then why do you Post,???? This isnt your friggin diary, it's a forum.

If you dont want us to read your Chit, dont post it.
Of course you care you timorous twit. LMAO

[nhboy (Premo)]

Originally Posted by ImnoMensa

Then why do you Post,???? This isnt your friggin diary, it's a forum.

If you dont want us to read your Chit, dont post it.
Of course you care you timorous twit. LMAO

What are you, the Forum Fairy? Wave your wand and I'll go away...w00t! What a simpleton!

[Bann (Premo)]

Originally Posted by nhboy

Not hardly you timorous twit. Article posted to get people like you to put down your Reader's Digests and Peoples magazines and remember the troops who are still coming home in body bags albeit at a slower rate than before.

I don't read Reader's Digest and/or People magazine.













I only read intraweb news site VRWC blog sites and watch Faux News.

[Kerad (Premo)]

Originally Posted by nhboy

What are you, the Forum Fairy? Wave your wand and I'll go away...w00t! What a simpleton!

[PsyOps]

To put things into perspective

These are stats based on when the US entered into these wars:

- US Civil War lasted 4 years - US deaths over 618,000 - Average 154,500 per year

- WWI lasted 1 year 7 months – US deaths 53,500 – Average 37,700 per yeaar

- WWII lasted 4 years - US deaths over 290,000 - Average 72,500 per year

- Korean War lasted 3 years - US deaths over 54,000 - Average 18,000 per year

- Vietnam War lasted 8 years - US deaths over 58,000 - Average 7,250 per year

- Desert Storm lasted not ever 2 months - US deaths 407 – Projected average 2442 per year (if the war had gone on for more than a year)

- Iraq War so far lasts 5 years - US deaths 3990 - Average 798 per year

Notice a trend?

[nhboy (Premo)]

Originally Posted by PsyOps

To put things into perspective

These are stats based on when the US entered into these wars:

- US Civil War lasted 4 years - US deaths over 618,000 - Average 154,500 per year

- WWI lasted 1 year 7 months – US deaths 53,500 – Average 37,700 per yeaar

- WWII lasted 4 years - US deaths over 290,000 - Average 72,500 per year

- Korean War lasted 3 years - US deaths over 54,000 - Average 18,000 per year

- Vietnam War lasted 8 years - US deaths over 58,000 - Average 7,250 per year

- Desert Storm lasted not ever 2 months - US deaths 407 – Projected average 2442 per year (if the war had gone on for more than a year)

- Iraq War so far lasts 5 years - US deaths 3990 - Average 798 per year

Notice a trend?

Well thank you for that. With these statistics you have convinced me not to concern myself with posting articles about a few piddling deaths in this war.

[Larry Gude (Premo)]

...McCain walking around Iraq yesterday and talking to folks, while wearing his flack jacket. The thought occured to me, what if a sniper got him and what would his thoughts be?

"I'm glad to be here dying for my country"?

How about "My life is gonna end in this #### hole???"

The Civil war was a battle for the soul of our nation.

WWI was a huge mistake for us to be involved in. What did we gain as a nation for the price we paid?

WWII became the war against fascism and Imperialism and there were clear good guys and bad guys even though one bad guy, communism, won as much as we did. The US truly flourished and prospered after that war.

Korea? What did we get out of that?

Vietnam? Bitter, bitter lesson we've already forgot.

Iraq? What are we buying with our blood and treasure?



People die every day. Soldiers die in training. They drop dead of heart attack. When a President sends people into harms way, he has an obligation for it to be worth the price and an obligation to use those troops in America's national interest, not anyone else's.

[PsyOps]

Originally Posted by nhboy

Well thank you for that. With these statistics you have convinced me not to concern myself with posting articles about a few piddling deaths in this war.

Okay, I could take your cheap shots if they had any consideration of what I have posted in the past.

Originally Posted by PsyOps

I pain at just one American death, but I am also able to see how our ability to reduce death as a mark of military success.

This thread is about the numbers (actually numbers that haven't even happened yet). I have provided facts on the numbers. All you can reply with is cheap rhetoric.

[PsyOps]

Originally Posted by Larry Gude

...McCain walking around Iraq yesterday and talking to folks, while wearing his flack jacket. The thought occured to me, what if a sniper got him and what would his thoughts be?

"I'm glad to be here dying for my country"?

How about "My life is gonna end in this #### hole???"

The Civil war was a battle for the soul of our nation.

WWI was a huge mistake for us to be involved in. What did we gain as a nation for the price we paid?

WWII became the war against fascism and Imperialism and there were clear good guys and bad guys even though one bad guy, communism, won as much as we did. The US truly flourished and prospered after that war.

Korea? What did we get out of that?

Vietnam? Bitter, bitter lesson we've already forgot.

Iraq? What are we buying with our blood and treasure?



People die every day. Soldiers die in training. They drop dead of heart attack. When a President sends people into harms way, he has an obligation for it to be worth the price and an obligation to use those troops in America's national interest, not anyone else's.

WWI our ships were being blown out of the water by German uboats. Acts of War. Germany was leading an assault on a continent. We were key in stopping that from happening.

WWII was clearly a moral war for us to engage in. And communism won for a time. They eventually lost.

Korea, we prevented an entire peninsula from being occupied by yet another sect of communism. This country is key to controlling what gets shipped in and out of that region.

Vietnam was a waste. We could have prevented another country from succumbing to communism if we had kept the media out of it and fought this war like we fought WWII. Now the Vietnamese live as prisoners in their own country.

Iraq, we rid this world of a threatening dictator. Perhaps this could be a blooming of democracy in a region that has never seen it. But, God forbid we inflict such an evil thing as freedom on those poor oppressed people. Oh wait... nevermind... it's about oil. Okay, we preserved the oil in this region from falling into the wrong hands.

We can sit around and dredge up all sorts of reasons for not going to war; especially after the fact. Ron Paul believed Lincoln should have never gotten us into the Civil War. All sorts of anti-war angles going on.

If we had found WMD (the smoking gun) in Iraq everyone would be saying it was worth it. So we are left with: we toppled a brutal dictator that used WMD and constantly threatened the region for control of the regions oil. We did what we did for what this president believed (as approved by our Congress) was for moral reasons and because of our increasing technical abilities to fight wars (getting back to the subject) we have been (with every war) able to substantially reduce loses.