Planned Parenthood

[This_person]

Originally Posted by puggymom

I am currently suffering from mastitis. It is a clogged milk duct caused by a LIVING bacterial infection. It is VERY common in breastfeeding woman. Should I not be allowed to take the necessary antibiotics to make me feel better because after all using your logic I made the choice to breastfeed knowing mastitis could happen.

And on that note seeing as how this bacteria is a LIVING organism in my body what give me the right to decided I can rid myself of it purely for my convience?

Wow, are you really comparing the life of a bacteria to that of your child? Are you serious?

My point is who gets to decide the value of life for others? Does a vegan get to decide that you (general) should not be allowed to eat meat, hunt, or wear any animal products? Because to them animals are living beings that deserve life. How would you feel if they got to make the laws.

Again, corn is just as alive as the cow that I hope eats it before I have the steak from the cow. But, none of these things are humans. I really, really, really see a difference between corn, cows, and humans. I hope you do, too.

Who gets to decide? Society. After all, that's who makes the laws. And, we've decided murder is against the law. Again, if you kill a pregnant woman, you can be charged with TWO murders. So, why isn't it just as much murder to kill the child in a doctor's office?

I firmly believe that abortion should be safe, legal, and rare. Instead of putting all this effort into attacking the supply for abortion why don't we focus on the demand? Why are woman getting pregnant with babies they do not want? Are we not effectly teaching BC to our children?

Because they know they can just kill it legally if they get pregnant accidentally? As shown above, information provided from pro-abortion sources show about 98% of abortions are unneeded for any other reason than convienience of the parent(s). That makes as much sense as being allowed to kill a one year old because the parent(s) didn't realize how much work and money they'd cost.

And honestly what do you think will happen if RvW is overturned? All it does is protect abortion on a federal level. If overturned it is up to the states to make that decision. And blue states, like Maryland, will contine to provide access while red states will ban it then turn around and cut all funding to help the mom and baby out once the baby is born.

That's quite a crystal ball you have. But, that's an interesting thought - the local government would have the control the tenth amendment says they have. Interesting thought.

[This_person]

Originally Posted by puggymom

It is not 'brought into this world' until is passes the birth canal--or the 1 in 4 chance of major surgery. So by taking away the decision to have an abortion you are in fact forcing them to have children.

How? Who told them they had to get pregnant in the first place?

It's consequences of actions, not force.

[This_person]

Originally Posted by puggymom

Because it is not legally a life until it is born. Once it is born it has the same rights as everyone else. Two organisms cannot have legal rights over the same body.

Then why was Scott Peterson convicted of TWO murders?

[itsbob (Premo)]

Originally Posted by Radiant1

As Libby pointed out, Margaret Sanger was a racist and advocated negative eugenics. This is part of the ideology that PP was founded on and I think that should be taken into consideration before one praises her efforts.

Careful, your ignorance is showing again.

Denegrating a person that's been dead HOW long to further your argument?

You were doing good until that point, now you've just shown that you haven't done your own research, just parroting what you've been told.

[puggymom]

Originally Posted by This_person

Wow, are you really comparing the life of a bacteria to that of your child? Are you serious?Again, corn is just as alive as the cow that I hope eats it before I have the steak from the cow. But, none of these things are humans. I really, really, really see a difference between corn, cows, and humans. I hope you do, too.

Who gets to decide? Society. After all, that's who makes the laws. And, we've decided murder is against the law. Again, if you kill a pregnant woman, you can be charged with TWO murders. So, why isn't it just as much murder to kill the child in a doctor's office?Because they know they can just kill it legally if they get pregnant accidentally? As shown above, information provided from pro-abortion sources show about 98% of abortions are unneeded for any other reason than convienience of the parent(s). That makes as much sense as being allowed to kill a one year old because the parent(s) didn't realize how much work and money they'd cost.That's quite a crystal ball you have. But, that's an interesting thought - the local government would have the control the tenth amendment says they have. Interesting thought.

EEERRRRRRR!!!!!!! I do not know how to separate the quote thingys without messing up so bare with me.

Me personally, NO!!!! I love my children. BUT YES there are people out there who view a fetus as a alien parasite that is invading thier bodies.


As for the killing the pregnant woman and being charged with two muders or even just killing her fetus well again I am PRO CHOICE. By doing that you are taking her choice away.

Once a baby is born it hs legal rights. Before that it does not as two people cannot have the same legal rights over one body.

And my point is abortion still would be accessable if RvW was overturned. Heck conservative South Dakota voted down an abortion law because it failed to include the life of the mother.

[This_person]

Originally Posted by puggymom

So are you saying that I should stop having sex with my husband? We are finished have children and he had a vasectomy. Should we abstain for the rest of our lives because of the chance the vasectomy could reverse? Does does not account for a healthy marriage to me.

No, I'm not saying that at all. I'm saying bully for you that you have sex and you've taken precautions not to have a baby. But, you've also chosen the risk, and thus the consequences, should there be an unexpected and unplanned for pregnancy.

When a person drives a car, they take the risk that there will be an accident, knowingly and voluntarily. You are not allowed to kill anyone who gets in your way so that you don't have accidents. You have to live with the consequences.

[puggymom]

Originally Posted by This_person

Then why was Scott Peterson convicted of TWO murders?

It has nothing to do with that but with the woman and the baby. The baby cannot have the same legal rights as the mother.

[This_person]

Originally Posted by puggymom

That is your opinion. Why do you get to decide the value of life for others? Cancer is a living organism. So why don't we ban chemo and radiation because after all it kills that living organism.

Once again, cancer will not grow into a human. The difference between a cancer cell and a human baby is so great that I would think you'd understand it, as a mother.

[This_person]

Originally Posted by puggymom

And on the choosing to have sex note don't you have like a 1 in 8 chance of getting into a car accident every time you drive. Does that mean you deserve to get into an accident just because you choose to drive?

No, you accept the potential of the consequences - you accept the risk.

[itsbob (Premo)]

Originally Posted by This_person

Then why was Scott Peterson convicted of TWO murders?

Because the baby wasn't in HIS body, it wasn't HIS choice.

She wanted to have the baby apparently, it's her body her choice.

I have faith in the intelligence of MOST women. If given the facts I fully support them to make the right choice.

I don't believe myself to be superior to have to make informed decisions for them.

Give them the facts, if they are over 18 (what the US deems to be an adult and capable of making adult decsions) and decide an abortion is right for them, who am I to force my rights, beliefs, and morals upon them??

Would I ever want to abort a baby? NO, absolutely not. I still wouldn't force my opinion on someone else.