Planned Parenthood

[itsbob (Premo)]

Originally Posted by Radiant1

Quotes in context please.

Nope, go read the speech yourself. I've already read it three or four times.

She also tried to share BC benefits with Klanswomen (as in the KKK), as she felt the KKK men were just as abusive to their women as the black men in the ghettos.

AND if she did think one race was superior to another (which I don't hink she did, but I can't read a dead woman's mind) that wouldn't make her a racist. That would have been the conventional wisdom at the time, and would have made her normal.

[itsbob (Premo)]

Did you also know margaret Sanger was against abortion?

[Radiant1]

Originally Posted by itsbob

Nope, go read the speech yourself. I've already read it three or four times.

She also tried to share BC benefits with Klanswomen (as in the KKK), as she felt the KKK men were just as abusive to their women as the black men in the ghettos.

What speech? Have you read her other publications, such as "The Eugenic Value of Birth Control Propaganda" or "Birth Control and Racial Betterment"?

Could you at least give us some links so the ignorant can be enlightened?

Originally Posted by itsbob

AND if she did think one race was superior to another (which I don't hink she did, but I can't read a dead woman's mind) that wouldn't make her a racist. That would have been the conventional wisdom at the time, and would have made her normal.

You can't be serious.

Your attempt at Margaret Sanger apologetics is getting desperate as well as amusing.

[Radiant1]

Originally Posted by itsbob

Did you also know margaret Sanger was against abortion?

For the most part she was, but only under certain circumstances, I don't recall that she specified what those circumstances were however.

Do you think she would be appalled that her own PP is churning out murdered babies on a daily basis??

[itsbob (Premo)]

Originally Posted by Radiant1

For the most part she was, but only under certain circumstances, I don't recall that she specified what those circumstances were however.

Do you think she would be appalled that her own PP is churning out murdered babies on a daily basis??

Maybe why she quit the and disassociated herself from the same foundation she built??

Her case for birth control took on an emphasis of

eugenics. She believed that the scientific regulation of

reproduction would prevent the social waste of abortion and

infanticide, and would reduce maternal mortality by preventing

pregnancy among women with tubercular, coronary, or renal

disorders. She also believed that birth control would eliminate

the weakening effects of hereditary afflictions, especially those

caused from venereal disease.

She believed in Birth Control as an answer to a lot of society's ills, including unnecessary abortions.


She used the term eugenics as a way of bettering a person's life, making healthier babies for all races, not eradicating a particular race. Lessening infant mortality by ensuring healtheir babies, lessening mother's dying by ensuring they had healthy pregnancies, and didn't spend 90% of their adult life pregnant.

[itsbob (Premo)]

Mothers
Can you afford to have a large family?
Do you want anymore children?
If not, why do you
have them?
DO NOT KILL.
DO NOT TAKE LIFE, BUT PREVENT.
Safe, harmless information can be
obtained of trained Nurses
46 AMBOY STREET
Near Pitkin Ave.---Brooklyn
Tell your friends
and neighbors. All mothers welcome.
A registration fee of
ten cents entitles any mother to this information.

A translated copy of the handbill that was handed out prior to the opening of her first clinic.

Where she was arrested for giving poor people information about Birth Control

[Radiant1]

Originally Posted by itsbob

Mothers
Can you afford to have a large family?
Do you want anymore children?
If not, why do you
have them?
DO NOT KILL.
DO NOT TAKE LIFE, BUT PREVENT.
Safe, harmless information can be
obtained of trained Nurses
46 AMBOY STREET
Near Pitkin Ave.---Brooklyn
Tell your friends
and neighbors. All mothers welcome.
A registration fee of
ten cents entitles any mother to this information.

A translated copy of the handbill that was handed out prior to the opening of her first clinic.

Where she was arrested for giving poor people information about Birth Control

Yeah she was arrested for that. I bet you find that as appalling as I do, but hey, it was just the times, no different than the racist views of her day, so we shouldn't be too overly upset about it, right?

I've seen a lot of quotes that put her in a bad light, you say I'm just parroting and they are taken out of context. Now, I can't determine if that's true if you don't give me a link or something can I? One handbill isn't going to cut it with the numerous quotes thrown about by pro-life organizations. In fact, here's a page that has a good many of them. I've no doubt one or two may be taken out of context, but all of them??

You're the one saying they are taken out of context, so I think you should be the one to prove to me that is the case.

[tommyjones]

Originally Posted by Radiant1

Yeah she was arrested for that. I bet you find that as appalling as I do, but hey, it was just the times, no different than the racist views of her day, so we shouldn't be too overly upset about it, right?

I've seen a lot of quotes that put her in a bad light, you say I'm just parroting and they are taken out of context. Now, I can't determine if that's true if you don't give me a link or something can I? One handbill isn't going to cut it with the numerous quotes thrown about by pro-life organizations. In fact, here's a page that has a good many of them. I've no doubt one or two may be taken out of context, but all of them??

You're the one saying they are taken out of context, so I think you should be the one to prove to me that is the case.

did you even read any of those?
most have two or three words in quotes and the rest of a paragraph that paints the alleged 'context'.


kind of like me putting up the following:

Originally Posted by Radiant1

while radiant wasn't in favor of late term abortion, she said "we shouldn't be too overly upset about it"

[Radiant1]

Originally Posted by tommyjones

did you even read any of those?
most have two or three words in quotes and the rest of a paragraph that paints the alleged 'context'.


kind of like me putting up the following:

Some are like that I agree, and since Bob claims to know the proper context I'm asking him for it.

[tommyjones]

Originally Posted by Radiant1

Some are like that I agree, and since Bob claims to know the proper context I'm asking him for it.

thats just retarded, you are taking what you know to be sensationalism and asking for more from the other side. why dont you just go read for yourself instead of relying on other's cliff notes?