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Old 05-02-2008, 09:10 AM   #201 (permalink)
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RACIST AND EUGENICIST STATEMENTS
BY MARGARET SANGER, THE FOUNDER OF PLANNED PARENTHOOD
"We should hire three or four colored ministers, preferably with
social-service backgrounds, and with engaging personalities. The most
successful educational approach to the Negro is through a religious appeal.
We don't want the word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro
population,
and the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if
it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members."
-- Margaret Sanger's December 19, 1939 letter to Dr. Clarence Gamble, 255
Adams Street, Milton, Massachusetts. Original source: Sophia Smith
Collection, Smith College, North Hampton, Massachusetts. Also described in
Linda Gordon's Woman's Body, Woman's Right: A Social History of Birth
Control in America . New York: Grossman Publishers, 1976.
"Our failure to segregate morons who are increasing and multiplying
... demonstrates our foolhardy and extravagant sentimentalism ...
[Philanthropists] encourage the healthier and more normal sections of the
world to shoulder the burden of unthinking and indiscriminate fecundity of
others; which brings with it, as I think the reader must agree, a dead
weight of human waste. Instead of decreasing and aiming to eliminate the
stocks that are most detrimental to the future of the race and the world,
it tends to render them to a menacing degree dominant ... We are paying
for, and even submitting to, the dictates of an ever-increasing,
unceasingly spawning class of human beings who never should have been born
at all."
-- Margaret Sanger. The Pivot of Civilization , 1922. Chapter on "The
Cruelty of Charity," pages 116, 122, and 189. Swarthmore College Library
edition.
"Today eugenics is suggested by the most diverse minds as the most
adequate and thorough avenue to the solution of racial, political and
social problems.
"I think you must agree ... that the campaign for birth control is not
merely of eugenic value, but is practically identical with the final aims
of eugenics
... Birth control propaganda is thus the entering wedge for the
eugenic educator.
"As an advocate of birth control I wish ... to point out that the
unbalance between the birth rate of the 'unfit' and the 'fit,' admittedly
the greatest present menace to civilization, can never be rectified by the
inauguration of a cradle competition between these two classes. In this
matter, the example of the inferior classes, the fertility of the feebleminded,
the mentally defective, the poverty-stricken classes, should not be
held up for emulation.
"On the contrary, the most urgent problem today is how to limit and
discourage the over-fertility of the mentally and physically defective."
-- Margaret Sanger. "The Eugenic Value of Birth Control Propaganda."
Birth Control Review , October 1921, page 5.
"Give dysgenic groups [people with 'bad genes'] in our population
their choice of segregation or [compulsory] sterilization."
-- Margaret Sanger, April 1932 Birth Control Review .
"The third group [of society] are those irresponsible and reckless
ones having little regard for the consequences of their acts, or whose
religious scruples prevent their exercising control over their numbers.
Many of this group are diseased, feeble-minded, and are of the pauper
element dependent upon the normal and fit members of society for their
support. There is no doubt in the minds of all thinking people that the
procreation of this group should be stopped."
-- Margaret Sanger. Speech quoted in Birth Control: What It Is, How It
Works, What It Will Do. The Proceedings of the First American Birth
Control Conference . Held at the Hotel Plaza, New York City, November 11-
12, 1921. Published by the Birth Control Review , Gothic Press, pages 172
and 174.
"In passing, we should here recognize the difficulties presented by the
idea of 'fit' and 'unfit.' Who is to decide this question? The grosser,
the more obvious, the undeniably feeble-minded should, indeed, not only be
discouraged but prevented from propagating their kind. But among the
writings of the representative Eugenists [sic], one cannot ignore the
distinct middle-class bias that prevails."
-- Margaret Sanger, quoted in Charles Valenza. "Was Margaret Sanger a
Racist?" Family Planning Perspectives , January-February 1985, page 44.
"Birth control must lead ultimately to a cleaner race."
-- Margaret Sanger. Woman, Morality, and Birth Control . New York: New
York Publishing Company, 1922. Page 12.
"There is only one reply to a request for a higher birthrate among the
intelligent, and that is to ask the government to first take the burden of
the insane and feeble-minded from your back
. [Mandatory] sterilization for
these is the answer."
-- Margaret Sanger, October 1926 Birth Control Review .
"[Slavs, Latin, and Hebrew immigrants are] human weeds ... a
deadweight of human waste ... [Blacks, soldiers, and Jews are a] menace to
the race."
"Eugenic sterilization is an urgent need ... We must prevent
Multiplication of this bad stock."
-- Margaret Sanger, April 1933 Birth Control Review .
"[Our objective is] unlimited sexual gratification without the burden
of unwanted children ... [Women must have the right] to live ... to love
... to be lazy ... to be an unmarried mother ... to create ... to destroy
... The marriage bed is the most degenerative influence in the social order
... The most merciful thing that a family does to one of its infant members
is to kill it."
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Old 05-02-2008, 09:11 AM   #202 (permalink)
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Old 05-02-2008, 09:18 AM   #203 (permalink)
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you are stretching it to say that is racist. in fact the first part that you made red indicated exactly the opposite.....



as for wanting to decrease the number of retarded and infirm, i am guessing you are in favor of MORE mentally and physically defective children being born?

Planned parenthood and or medical professionals have gone to great lengths to help us have healthier children more often, i dont see how that is a bad thing.
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Old 05-02-2008, 09:20 AM   #204 (permalink)
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As I said before the site I posted isn't the only one, and in fact wasn't the site that Bob was fussin' about to begin with, not to mention the site I posted actually cites its sources, so at least when I do get around to reading Sanger's material I'll know where to look.



"Greater understanding and practice of planned parenthood, through the use of contraceptive measures prescribed by doctors and clinics, will mean that there will be more strong and healthy children and fewer defective and handicapped babies unable to find a useful or happy place in life."

I'll still call it as I see it. It reeks.



do you not know what contraceptives are?
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Old 05-02-2008, 09:43 AM   #205 (permalink)
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you are stretching it to say that is racist. in fact the first part that you made red indicated exactly the opposite.....



as for wanting to decrease the number of retarded and infirm, i am guessing you are in favor of MORE mentally and physically defective children being born?

Planned parenthood and or medical professionals have gone to great lengths to help us have healthier children more often, i dont see how that is a bad thing.
It's the engineering of births that is the problem. Today we have her exact philosophy in practice with identification of genes in an unborn child for the purpose of weighing the likelihood of some sort of disorder, and terminating a pregnancy.
As I said earlier, I do not blame Sanger personally for what is going on today. No one person is responsible for any of the evils of the world, from hunger to abortion. However, we all need to critically consider the the fundamental message and the precedent it sets.
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Old 05-02-2008, 09:47 AM   #206 (permalink)
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Planned parenthood and or medical professionals have gone to great lengths to help us have healthier children more often, i dont see how that is a bad thing.
It's not a bad thing in and of itself but PP readily performs abortions. If they didn't you would hear no argument from me.

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Yes I do. In fact I'm more educated on contraceptives than you are, seeing how you don't seem to understand that some are abortificients.
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It's not a bad thing in and of itself but PP readily performs abortions. If they didn't you would hear no argument from me.



Yes I do. In fact I'm more educated on contraceptives than you are, seeing how you don't seem to understand that some are abortificients.
i understand that you have some weird idea of when life starts. an egg that doesnt stick isn't an abortion in my book.

I'm guessing catholic, right?
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i understand that you have some weird idea of when life starts. an egg that doesnt stick isn't an abortion in my book.

I'm guessing catholic, right?
Don't forget...you aren't allowed to "spill your seed" either...so basically, no masturbating, no sex w/condoms, BC isn't allowed because sex is only for procreation...so no doing the do unless you plan to have babies...but you also can't relieve pent-up desire because that is breaking the "spilling" rule...so you are basically effed unless you are effing to have kids..
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Yes I do. In fact I'm more educated on contraceptives than you are, seeing how you don't seem to understand that some are abortificients.
Contraception by definition prevents conception. They do not cause abortions because in order for one to occur conception has to have taken place. A fertilized egg does not equal conception. The egg must implant itself in the uterine lining before it can start to multiply and grow into an embryo. No implantation means no conception. Would you consider a fertilized egg that does not implant due to natural causes a misscarriage? If so than most sexually active women have had dozens.

I am personally opposed to abortion, but saying that contraceptives of any type causes abortions is medically inaccurate.
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