Planned Parenthood

[pcjohnnyb (Premo)]

Originally Posted by This_person

If it were my kid? No question, carry to term, raise the child to the best of my abilities, and pray daily for a cure to whatever the problem is.

I don't put varying values on other people's lives because of what a doctor predicts, or what other may think their quality of life may be - they're all priceless.

I find this a hard question to address.

I was initially (before he posted it) on bob's side...in that it isn't really a bad thing to keep people out of this world that will only be a burden on it. I can't say I would do the same for my kid though, selfish as that may be. I think if I was told by a doctor that my soon-to-be kid was PROBABLY going to have a mental illness, I would have to say to have it anyway because there is a chance it COULD be fine. Even if it wasn't, its still your kid and you are responsible for its upbringing...right?

Definitely a tough issue. I'm totally for the choice of abortion/birth, but I don't think under MANY circumstances could I have a kid of my own aborted.

[vegmom]

Originally Posted by ItalianScallion

As long as it fails to implant naturally it's not an abortion. If an outside source causes it not to implant (RU486 or the like) then it is an abortion. Conception is the beginning of life. Whether or not it is viable outside of the womb is irrelevant. Many old people are not viable on their own but they should not be aborted.

I think you missed the post where I said I was against medically induced abortion.

ABORTION does not occur without a PREGNANCY.

A woman is not pregnant until the fertilized egg has implanted and begun to develop into an actual human being.

I really get irked when people try to discourage women from using effective contraceptives by spreading misinformation like this.

[This_person]

Originally Posted by Fugazi

The intelectual and emotional substance of your argument is overwhelming.

[pcjohnnyb (Premo)]

Originally Posted by itsbob

:fixed:

Enquiring minds MAY want to know!

Did NOT know that.

Learn something new every day.

[Fugazi]

Originally Posted by ItalianScallion

You are impressive my teen aged friend! Change your screen name because you apparently are NOT that. Great post young person. I'm very impressed with your pro life stand.

You are disappointing me!

As long as it fails to implant naturally it's not an abortion. If an outside source causes it not to implant (RU486 or the like) then it is an abortion. Conception is the beginning of life. Whether or not it is viable outside of the womb is irrelevant. Many old people are not viable on their own but they should not be aborted.

Sorry Father Scallion

[Fugazi]

Originally Posted by This_person

The intelectual and emotional substance of your argument is overwhelming.

Why thanks! This world is already overpopulated.... Abortion should be mandatory in a lot of cases.....

[puggymom]

I hate to agree with the pro-life crowd here but I do need to clear up some stuff.
Yes you can get a (+) pregnancy test before the egg has implanted yet still miscarry. This is called a 'chemical pregnancy' and they are VERY common. Most people who not even know they were pregnant. The only ones who do are usually woman actively TTC (trying to conceive) so they find themselves obsessively taking tests esp early ones just in case.
This actually happened to a friend of mine last month. She got a (+) at 3 weeks 4 days then went on to miscarry at just about 4 weeks. Had she not been TTC she would not even known she was pregnant. She would have just assumed it was her period.
A Chemical Pregnancy is a Miscarriage Early in the Pregnancy

[This_person]

Originally Posted by pcjohnnyb

I find this a hard question to address.

I was initially (before he posted it) on bob's side...in that it isn't really a bad thing to keep people out of this world that will only be a burden on it. I can't say I would do the same for my kid though, selfish as that may be. I think if I was told by a doctor that my soon-to-be kid was PROBABLY going to have a mental illness, I would have to say to have it anyway because there is a chance it COULD be fine. Even if it wasn't, its still your kid and you are responsible for its upbringing...right?

Definitely a tough issue. I'm totally for the choice of abortion/birth, but I don't think under MANY circumstances could I have a kid of my own aborted.

I do not see anything right in aborting a child. Not a thing. Having said that, I would honestly find it hard to advise my daughter she must fully carry a child that was a product of a rape. However, knowing that rape accounts for something along the lines of 0.3-0.6% of abortions, I would keep my stance against abortion, with an allowance for health of the mother and/or rape.

As far as bringing a child into the world who would even "probably" have problems - who doesn't have problems? A life is a life.

[This_person]

Originally Posted by Fugazi

Why thanks! This world is already overpopulated.... Abortion should be mandatory in a lot of cases.....

You know, they say to start by fixing yourself.......

[vegmom]

Originally Posted by puggymom

I hate to agree with the pro-life crowd here but I do need to clear up some stuff.
Yes you can get a (+) pregnancy test before the egg has implanted yet still miscarry. This is called a 'chemical pregnancy' and they are VERY common. Most people who not even know they were pregnant. The only ones who do are usually woman actively TTC (trying to conceive) so they find themselves obsessively taking tests esp early ones just in case.
This actually happened to a friend of mine last month. She got a (+) at 3 weeks 4 days then went on to miscarry at just about 4 weeks. Had she not been TTC she would not even known she was pregnant. She would have just assumed it was her period.
A Chemical Pregnancy is a Miscarriage Early in the Pregnancy

But the egg would have implanted long before then (in her time frame).

I know when I had my daughter I was waaaaay past that point but the docs still took 2 blood tests a week apart to be sure it was "going to take".

BTW- my youngun' loves pugs (although all she can have right now is a Webkinz pug).