Planned Parenthood

[Xaquin44]

Originally Posted by This_person

No one has a choice to murder their two day old, either. What's the difference?

6 months and 2 days I believe

[This_person]

Originally Posted by Go G-Men

Well why don't we just take this to the next level... Any sex that is NOT for conceptional purposes is illegal and punishable by prison. Yes the good old puritan days...

Why? Because that's an idiotic suggestion. Sex is certainly up to the conscenting adults. The suggestion is that they be held accountable for their actions instead of allowing (and taxpayer funding) the murder of their child.

[This_person]

Originally Posted by Xaquin44

6 months and 2 days I believe

You're absolutely right, the only difference is time. Otherwise, they're both murder

[Go G-Men]

Originally Posted by This_person

Murder is my business whether it's a baby, or a child, or a teen, or a young adult, or adult, or senior citizen.Absolutely not true.
So you are also against the death penalty? Also you are against removing a brain dead accident victim from a ventilator...etc...?
Many people against abortion adopt, run adoption agencies, teach abstinence and/or safe sex as alternatives, pay taxes to support those of lower income get by until they can get by on their own, etc.
You know I keep hearing that but see very little proof. I have been to "Pro-life demonstrations (obviously not in support of said demonstrators) and have yet to hear one demonstrator tell a young lady that if they don't go through with the abortion that they will fully support the child for the rest of its life. Not once.."
What you say here is patently false.My judgement, as you word it, against abortion is based entirely on secular thoughts. Three times at least above you labeled my thoughts on it as religiously based. Please provide any quote from me that justifies that nonsense.

I was labeling the whole group but in your case that is not true. In your case you believe because it happened to you and you did not like it than your opinion should be forced on all others. I say let them make there own decisions or you raise these children for them.

[Xaquin44]

Originally Posted by This_person

You're absolutely right, the only difference is time. Otherwise, they're both murder

should we get into the legal repricussions of anti abortion laws and/or in vitro fertilization?

I'm game =)

[itsbob (Premo)]

Originally Posted by This_person

Many people against abortion ... pay taxes to support those of lower income get by until they can get by on their own, etc.

Wow, anti abortionists pay taxes!! Aren't they just the friggin Modern Day Mother Theresa..

They also hunt down and kill Doctors, Nurses, and even clerks that are trying to get by and provide for themselves by WORKING. providing a LEGAL service.

Not impressed, but please, feel free to try again.

[Go G-Men]

Originally Posted by This_person

Why? Because that's an idiotic suggestion. Sex is certainly up to the conscenting adults. The suggestion is that they be held accountable for their actions instead of allowing (and taxpayer funding) the murder of their child.

I believe that our conscience holds us all accountable. You want them to be accountable to you. This is a free country last I checked and the law as it is now allows for abortions.

My suggestion was was made to put a point on all the post saying nobody has the right to abort a fetus.. If we truly want to stop abortions than we have to be willing to go all out....

Do you honestly believe that abortions will stop just because the Federal government changes the law. Not at all... Abortion will always occur and there isn't a damn thing we can do to stop it... Other than outlawing sex of course...

[itsbob (Premo)]

Originally Posted by This_person

.Again, unless you're talking rape (which is the basis for my caveat that I'd accept abortion as an option for a rape victim), no one forced anyone to have sex, thus risking having a child.

Like I said, you'd want to have the right to have the child and raise the child, but you have NO problem taking the right away from someone else. There is no law on the books that would require you to have an abortion no matter what the test results are, you have that choice.

I don't even know what I would do in that situation, not sure I could even think of aborting a child no matter what the circumstances, but I don't think myself so high and mighty to suggest EVERYONE should be forced to do the same.

[This_person]

Originally Posted by Go G-Men

I was labeling the whole group but in your case that is not true. In your case you believe because it happened to you and you did not like it than your opinion should be forced on all others. I say let them make there own decisions or you raise these children for them.

Again, my reasoning is not based upon what happened to me. I merely was responding to someone who suggested I had no dog in the fight because I was male.

My opinions come from sound, sober reasoning.

However, your options are interesting. A - Let them screw up, or B - Take on the consequences of their actions for them. Realize, you're still arguing that people not be held responsible for their own actions. Not a good argument.

[Go G-Men]

Originally Posted by itsbob

Like I said, you'd want to have the right to have the child and raise the child, but you have NO problem taking the right away from someone else. There is no law on the books that would require you to have an abortion no matter what the test results are, you have that choice.

I don't even know what I would do in that situation, not sure I could even think of aborting a child no matter what the circumstances, but I don't think myself so high and mighty to suggest EVERYONE should be forced to do the same.