Planned Parenthood

[Go G-Men]

Originally Posted by kwillia

How many children were waiting to be adopted on September 30, 2006? 129,000

NOTES: Waiting children are identified as children who have a goal of adoption and/or whose parental rights have been terminated. Children 16 years old and older whose parental rights have been terminated and who have a goal of emancipation have been excluded from the estimate.

But why are there any children on the waiting list... If you listen to the Anti-Abortionist all these children would have a loving family just waiting for them???

[This_person]

Originally Posted by Go G-Men

Of course that last part would be your opinion and by all rights go ahead and make that part of your life...

Leave the others to those families involved... That's all I am saying..

And, in saying that, you're suggesting it's okay for "those families involved" to kill their kids legally. I don't think that's okay for a two day old, or a baby in the womb, and that's the real discussion. You can make it about my religion, or people taking control of women's bodies, etc. But, none of that has any actual bearing on the issue. You either believe a fetus is a baby human, or a clump of cells within the mother's body. Because, if you see it as a baby human, killing it is murder and murder is wrong. If you see it as a clump of cells belonging ONLY to the mother, it's not murder and it's a choice to remove, like a wart or a tumor. I find viewing a baby similarly to a wart or tumor repulsively ignorant.

[This_person]

Originally Posted by Go G-Men

Your definition of murder as far as abortion goes is not my definition.. First trimester abortions in my opinion is not murder. Anything after that, with the exception of mother's health should be illegal.

What difference does the day make where the baby goes from first to second trimester? What changes about the life?

[This_person]

Originally Posted by Go G-Men

See my last post concerning our differing definitions..

Secondly, I am saying that you want others to live the you do... Not unlike christians doing the same thing. Whether your reasons are religious or secular your morals should not be forced on all others.

Again, if you think this, you clearly must be against all laws. I'm not an anarchist.

[This_person]

Originally Posted by Go G-Men

But why are there any children on the waiting list... If you listen to the Anti-Abortionist all these children would have a loving family just waiting for them???

Each year in the United States, about 51,000 American children are placed for adoption. In addition, about 6,500 foreign children are adopted by Americans, for a total of a little under 58,000 children adopted per year.
There are no national statistics on how many people are waiting to adopt, but experts estimate it is somewhere between one and two million couples

Waiting to adopt

18 seconds of searching.......

[Go G-Men]

Originally Posted by This_person

Again, if you think this, you clearly must be against all laws. I'm not an anarchist.

No I am actually for all laws... Even those I personally disagree with.. Now if you are of the same mind then right now in this country certain abortions are legal. So how you view this is not really an issue. We are a country of laws after all. Based on your logic you would agree yes?

[Go G-Men]

Originally Posted by This_person

Each year in the United States, about 51,000 American children are placed for adoption. In addition, about 6,500 foreign children are adopted by Americans, for a total of a little under 58,000 children adopted per year.
There are no national statistics on how many people are waiting to adopt, but experts estimate it is somewhere between one and two million couples

Waiting to adopt

18 seconds of searching.......

So lets put them together and get all 129,000 children to these couples... Oh wait... There maybe black children and hispanic children on that list and of course most of the 1 to 2 million couples are looking for the "perfect little white baby" who is under the age of 2..

[This_person]

Originally Posted by Go G-Men

No I am actually for all laws... Even those I personally disagree with.. Now if you are of the same mind then right now in this country certain abortions are legal. So how you view this is not really an issue. We are a country of laws after all. Based on your logic you would agree yes?

To a point, yes. How I view this is an issue only when it comes to things like elections, feedback to politicians on where money is spent, suggestions and support of judges, etc. It is a government "of the people..." So, how we each view this is of equal importance, or lack thereof. However, the argument that murders would still happen whether they're legal or not has no bearing on whether they're legal or not, whether that murder is abortion, or stabbing, or shooting, or......

[Go G-Men]

Originally Posted by This_person

Each year in the United States, about 51,000 American children are placed for adoption. In addition, about 6,500 foreign children are adopted by Americans, for a total of a little under 58,000 children adopted per year.
There are no national statistics on how many people are waiting to adopt, but experts estimate it is somewhere between one and two million couples

Waiting to adopt

18 seconds of searching.......

And you were saying something earlier about this no being a religious issue... Yet the link is to a Christian website... hmmmm

[Radiant1]

Originally Posted by itsbob

Don't understand what your point is, or what one thing has to do with another.

Plaease give me your reason for asking, or explain your deviant thought process.

Since you are afraid to answer the question I'll assume it's safe to say you do have a living will.

A living will is your directive (your choice) in what to do (life or death) in the event you were you were incapacitated in some way, correct? If you deem it OK for a woman to choose life or death for her temporarily incapacitated baby then why wouldn't you leave the choice to someone else of what to do should you become incapacitated?

In essence it's not just "her body", it's her body and someone elses. Yeah that may royally suck for women but it's the way nature is.