Planned Parenthood

[This_person]

Originally Posted by Go G-Men

16 percent of adopted children under 18 in the United States are black. Seven percent of adopted children are Asian, and two percent are American Indian and Alaska native.

That is a total of 25 percent... That means to me that the other 75% looks awfully white....

Still looking for better stats but have yet to come up with anything substantial.

We're talking abortion choice here, I'm looking for babies - under a few months old, the ones that are comparable to the baby being killed as an option instead of having it and giving it up for adoption.

[AndyMarquisLIVE]

Originally Posted by This_person

I don't know anyone advocating forcing childbirth on anyone. I do not now nor have I ever suggested that people should go out and have sex to fill this void for other people.

But, if one should choose to go out and have sex, the consequences of that are pretty clear to anyone who does it willingly. Therefore, if they're looking for choices, they have many

• Don't have sex if you're not going to be willing to go full term with a pregnancy from it

• Be willing to raise the child from your sexual experience

• Know that there is a demand for your baby from good parents wishing to adopt

• Know whether you would have the support of family and friends to aid you in raising a child yourself

It's just a list of choices available (that would obviously not include "kill your child, pre-birth or post-birth")

[This_person]

Originally Posted by itsbob

And I don't think a bunch of cells that is not in and of itself a viable being a baby.

I applaud you for breaking it down to the actual argument of abortion, but I'm curious why you have this stance. I asked Go-G earlier at what stage he thinks this life becomes a life, and he said second trimester (though the question as to "why then" went unanswered). At what stage do you think this life becomes a life, and not something comparable to a tumor?

[tommyjones]

Originally Posted by AndyMarquisLIVE

so we got the virgin, and the man who was scorned in agreement about what the rest of us should do

Andy, when you grow up you will realize that people have sex more often than not, with the intention of NOT making a baby. If those people get pregnant and decide to have an abortion it is NONE of your business, it doens't affect your life in any way.....

[puggymom]

Originally Posted by This_person

I applaud you for breaking it down to the actual argument of abortion, but I'm curious why you have this stance. I asked Go-G earlier at what stage he thinks this life becomes a life, and he said second trimester (though the question as to "why then" went unanswered). At what stage do you think this life becomes a life, and not something comparable to a tumor?

I know this is not to me but do you want my personal opinion from my experience being pregnant or what I believe the legal defination should be?

[This_person]

Originally Posted by Xaquin44

How many babies have you adopted T_P?

None, I've been too busy raising the family I chose to have, taking care of my own responsibilities.

just curious

also, are you cool with every miscarriage being investigated as murder one?

You mean, like every natural death is investigated as a murder? Or, are you just trying to stir the pot with dishonest questions?

death penalty for girls who have them?

Who have miscarriages, or abortions once they're illegal?[/quote]also, no more in vitro fertilization. Guess they can just adopt hehe[/quote]We've discussed the IVF quite a bit before. As I say, those fertilized eggs that do not become babies are more like miscarriages than abortions, or like when a doctor tries to save (make) a life and fails. That's not murder, that's unfortuante.

[sockgirl77 (Premo)]

Originally Posted by tommyjones

so we got the virgin, and the man who was scorned in agreement about what the rest of us should do

Andy, when you grow up you will realize that people have sex more often than not, with the intention of NOT making a baby. If those people get pregnant and decide to have an abortion it is NONE of your business, it doens't affect your life in any way.....

I 100% agree with you.

[This_person]

Originally Posted by puggymom

I know this is not to me but do you want my personal opinion from my experience being pregnant or what I believe the legal defination should be?

Of course! That's the whole point of the discussion - respectful (from most of us) exchange of ideas.

[tommyjones]

Originally Posted by sockgirl77

I 100% agree with you.

and we are both parents and understand completely what is at stake......

what some woman decides to do with her pregnancy is her choice, the way it should be, control freaks and virgins need not be consulted.

[puggymom]

Originally Posted by This_person

None, I've been too busy raising the family I chose to have, taking care of my own responsibilities.You mean, like every natural death is investigated as a murder? Or, are you just trying to stir the pot with dishonest questions?Who have miscarriages, or abortions once they're illegal?

also, no more in vitro fertilization. Guess they can just adopt hehe[/quote]We've discussed the IVF quite a bit before. As I say, those fertilized eggs that do not become babies are more like miscarriages than abortions, or like when a doctor tries to save (make) a life and fails. That's not murder, that's unfortuante.[/quote]
If abortion is defined as murder do you honestly believe that some people wanting out will not try to induce a miscarriage? And if a fetus is given the same legal status as an already born human wouldn't they have a right to an investigation into their 'murder' intentional or not?