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Old 04-30-2008, 12:13 PM   #41 (permalink)
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The point was would you not be glad to be alive? Or, would you think you had deserved to die simply because your sperm donor was a rapist?

But since you are alive, would you want your mother to be a victim of rape AND a murderer?

You still can't/won't answer those questions eh?



I may or not be there if it were to happen, and if I were I would care, but oddly enough you wouldn't want me to because afterall it's none of my business.
here's an idea, go get yourself rapped, and impregnated, raise the kid by yourself trying your best to have a normal life and get back to us with how you feel when you are done. until then do try to make the choice for these victims.
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Old 04-30-2008, 12:15 PM   #42 (permalink)
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here's an idea, go get yourself rapped, and impregnated, raise the kid by yourself trying your best to have a normal life and get back to us with how you feel when you are done. until then do try to make the choice for these victims.
That makes just as much sense as saying "go get yourself killed medically, then you can argue in the place of the killed babies".
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Old 04-30-2008, 12:15 PM   #43 (permalink)
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And, we're not saying people are being told they HAVE to have children. The choice comes at the time of intercourse, not once the rabbit dies. The choice is going to bed with someone. It is NOT okay to kill someone because they're an inconvinience. For the record, for those two percent (or less) of abortions that occur because they're from rape, incest, or for the life/health of the mother - I'll buy those might be reasonable as a compromise.

And, yes, I've been personally effected. I've had a baby of mine killed without my fore-knowledge or permission.
killled without fore-knowledge or permission?? while it was in you? i find this hard to believe, but there always may be instances. i dont care to know what happened so don't feel you have to explain.
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Old 04-30-2008, 12:17 PM   #44 (permalink)
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killled without fore-knowledge or permission?? while it was in you? i find this hard to believe, but there always may be instances. i dont care to know what happened so don't feel you have to explain.
I feel no need to explain, but you asked if I had been impacted. I have.

No, I'm male, it wasn't in me. I wasn't given that choice any more than my unborn child was.

At what age does this stop being okay (you haven't answered that yet)?
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Old 04-30-2008, 12:19 PM   #45 (permalink)
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im not the one to set an age. so don't come to me for answers.
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Old 04-30-2008, 12:22 PM   #46 (permalink)
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im not the one to set an age. so don't come to me for answers.
You clearly feel very strongly.

About what, you have no idea!
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Old 04-30-2008, 12:22 PM   #47 (permalink)
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I feel no need to explain, but you asked if I had been impacted. I have.

No, I'm male, it wasn't in me. I wasn't given that choice any more than my unborn child was.

At what age does this stop being okay (you haven't answered that yet)?
sorry for your pain, but you honestly don't have the choice. it's the mother's body and if shouldnt couldn't go through with it, nothing you can do to stop her. if the roles were reversed and you didn't want a child and she did...nothing you can do to stop her there either.
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Old 04-30-2008, 12:23 PM   #48 (permalink)
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You clearly feel very strongly.

About what, you have no idea!
no im simply stating that no matter what i say it will be attacked. there is no point for me to say anything.
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Old 04-30-2008, 12:24 PM   #49 (permalink)
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sorry for your pain, but you honestly don't have the choice. it's the mother's body and if shouldnt couldn't go through with it, nothing you can do to stop her. if the roles were reversed and you didn't want a child and she did...nothing you can do to stop her there either.
So, the mother is the only one with a "choice"? Not the baby, not the father?

So, a reasonable scenerio is that the father does not "choose" the child he chose to create. Should it be equally okay for him to "choose" not to support that child?
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Old 04-30-2008, 12:25 PM   #50 (permalink)
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sorry for your pain, but you honestly don't have the choice. it's the mother's body and if shouldnt couldn't go through with it, nothing you can do to stop her. if the roles were reversed and you didn't want a child and she did...nothing you can do to stop her there either.
wow, sounds like he should have choosen who he had sex with more wisely
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