Planned Parenthood

[This_person]

Originally Posted by puggymom

The patient being the family affected. I actually believe that the woman should be morally (NOT legally however) obligated to inform the 'father'. But in the case of a married couple who already have three kids they are struggling to care for. It would be the entire family affected by a 4th child. If something happened to the mom it would be the entirely family who loses a mother.
Ultimately it is the woman's decison but there is more to accidental pregnanies than just some 20 year old and her BF having an oopsie.

I agree there are more people than that. I've looked at the numbers.

However, why this kid? Why not the older one, they're probably more expensive to this hypothetical family of 5? Why does only the mother get to decide who dies?

[This_person]

Originally Posted by Nucklesack

because its possible the tadpole is able to live on its own at a later date than the end of the first trimester (as a general rule).

Don't you see that's the whole point? It IS possible, unless you kill that child.

[This_person]

Originally Posted by Nucklesack

Forget the % of abortions that are the result of the rape. If you believe abortion is wrong, then its wrong. The fetus is no different during a rape pregnancy than it is during a non-rape one.
The "innocent" is exactly the same in both cases.

I do agree the innocent person, the murdered child, as being the same. However, a big difference for me is that the murdered child was NOT the choice of the mother. This is no longer a personal responsibility issue, and I personally believe that the mother's mental health could be greatly damaged by carrying that child to term, even if she gives it up for adoption after.

I'm all for charging the rapist with murder as well if the mother chooses abortion in this issue, but I'm REASONABLE enough to see something other than just the black and white of the issue.

[This_person]

Originally Posted by sockgirl77

Hypocrit.

DING DING DING DING!!!! You were the first one to actually do it, congratulations!

[This_person]

Originally Posted by F.Y.I.

It never ceases to amaze me how many people have opinions on what someone should or should not do.

And if you're a man, then you need to just shut up. You absolutely have no clue what any of this is like.

Men are parents, too. I can only speak for myself and the type of people I choose to associate with, but we understand.

[donbarzini]

Originally Posted by Radiant1

and I do my best to avoid mudslinging .

Now that is the funniest thing I've heard this year.

[AndyMarquisLIVE]

Originally Posted by donbarzini

Now that is the funniest thing I've heard this year.

[tommyjones]

Originally Posted by donbarzini

Now that is the funniest thing I've heard this year.

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well thats the funniest thing i have seen all year

[Xaquin44]

Originally Posted by This_person

Let's describe it this way, and see if you get it. A certain type of brain cancer is 100% fatal to the untreated, and only 25% survival rate of those who are treated. So, of the treated, is that killing 75%, or saving 25%?

That's right, when you try to save (create) a life, the lack of success is not murderous, it's simply failure at the goal of life.

Now, take random people off the street, slice a hole in their head, and suck their brains out because they're inconvinient to their family. I'm betting real close to 100% die. Is this a "choice" of their family, or murder of the person?

That's right, when you kill someone, that's murder.


Do you see the difference between IVF and abortion yet?

Oh, and if you can show me anything that implies my feeling on this are "punish the slut", please show me, so I can correct your horribly inaccurate view.

Thats not a good comparison. Brain cancer =/= a child. When you preform in vitro, embryos (children as you define them) are 100% dead. I guess if you want to rationalize the casualties to make yourself feel better thats fine, but don't pretend it fits in your views and is not horribly hypocritical.

Remember, in vitro kills (generally speaking more embryos then one abortion), and as you like to say, "That's right, when you kill someone, that's murder."

[This_person]

Originally Posted by Xaquin44

Thats not a good comparison. Brain cancer =/= a child. When you preform in vitro, embryos (children as you define them) are 100% dead. I guess if you want to rationalize the casualties to make yourself feel better thats fine, but don't pretend it fits in your views and is not horribly hypocritical.

Remember, in vitro kills (generally speaking more embryos then one abortion), and as you like to say, "That's right, when you kill someone, that's murder."

The difference is still that with IVF you are trying to create life, some just don't make it. With abortions, you are taking life and snuffing it out on purpose. It's not hypocritical to say that trying to create life is good, trying to kill life is bad. It's actually pretty consistent.