Planned Parenthood

[Xaquin44]

Originally Posted by This_person

The difference is still that with IVF you are trying to create life, some just don't make it. With abortions, you are taking life and snuffing it out on purpose. It's not hypocritical to say that trying to create life is good, trying to kill life is bad. It's actually pretty consistent.

yes ... but you fully know that much of the life you create will die. It's more akin (if you buy that an embryo is a child) to having quints and killing 4.

Is an embryo a child?

[This_person]

Originally Posted by Xaquin44

yes ... but you fully know that much of the life you create will die. It's more akin (if you buy that an embryo is a child) to having quints and killing 4.

Is an embryo a child?

It's a lot more like having sex ten times and getting a pregnancy capable of going full term once. You're not intentionally killing anyone, they're just not making it full term. Intention here is the key - if you are trying to create life and fail that's almost the exact opposite of trying to kill and succeeding.

[PsyOps]

Originally Posted by F.Y.I.

Yes. That's exactly what I'm doing.

No uterus no opinion. That's how I feel about it.

So I suppose since the vast majority of murders are committed by men, women should have no opinion on it.

And I suppose since we have legislators and members of our USSC that are men they need to sit out on that decision when it comes due.

Lastly, I'm pretty sure if a man had an opinion that agreed with yours you'd be just fine with that MAN spouting off about it. So, your feelings are only based on those that disagree with you.

[Xaquin44]

Originally Posted by This_person

You're not intentionally killing anyone, they're just not making it full term.

oh no no you're not intentionally killing anyone .... you just know for fact it will happen but do it anyway.

hey, why not just view abortions as 'not making it full term'?

or is it only allowed in special cases that you say should be ok?

[tommyjones]

Originally Posted by Xaquin44

oh no no you're not intentionally killing anyone .... you just know for fact it will happen but do it anyway.

hey, why not just view abortions as 'not making it full term'?

or is it only allowed in special cases that you say should be ok?

its about the same as getting knocked up for times and having 3 abortions isn't it?

[This_person]

Originally Posted by Xaquin44

oh no no you're not intentionally killing anyone .... you just know for fact it will happen but do it anyway.

hey, why not just view abortions as 'not making it full term'?

or is it only allowed in special cases that you say should be ok?

Any student of biology will know that there are a number of times when sex will lead to a fertilized egg that will end up being miscarried. I know that for a fact, and yet, I do not see that as murder. Now, should someone take that fertilized egg and suck it out of the womb and throw it in the trash, that's murder. The reason abortions are not simply viewed as "not making it full term" is that the reason they don't is not natural, it's intentionally ending a life.

[sockgirl77 (Premo)]

I am so happy that I got my tubes tied. Was that morally wrong?

[tommyjones]

Originally Posted by sockgirl77

I am so happy that I got my tubes tied. Was that morally wrong?

only that you didn't do it sooner :zing:

[This_person]

Originally Posted by sockgirl77

I am so happy that I got my tubes tied. Was that morally wrong?

Really up to your belief system, but not wrong in my view. THAT is a choice, THAT is a woman's reproductive right, THAT kills no one.

Good plan, in my view.

[sockgirl77 (Premo)]

Originally Posted by This_person

Really up to your belief system, but not wrong in my view. THAT is a choice, THAT is a woman's reproductive right, THAT kills no one.

Good plan, in my view.

How do Catholics feel about it? It is BC, right?