Planned Parenthood

[This_person]

Originally Posted by C6R_Mag

no im simply stating that no matter what i say it will be attacked. there is no point for me to say anything.

I'm not personally trying to attack you, just discuss with you on more than a bumper-sticker level of information.

You feel clearly the mother should have the right to kill her child - I'm asking how old that child should be before it has the right to live. And, the right to expect care from the parents.

[thatcat22]

you just don't learn when to shut your damn mouth do you? u can say the sky is blue and still be attacked on here!

[Radiant1]

Originally Posted by tommyjones

here's an idea, go get yourself rapped, and impregnated, raise the kid by yourself trying your best to have a normal life and get back to us with how you feel when you are done. until then do try to make the choice for these victims.

You assume I haven't walked in certain shoes. Pregnancy resulting from rape creates two victims, mother AND child.

Aww, hell, let's just murder the rape victim too due to her misery because she may not ever overcome it and later become a screwed up parent raising screwed up kids.

[This_person]

Originally Posted by tommyjones

wow, sounds like he should have choosen who he had sex with more wisely

Of that you are correct. And both I and my child suffered for this choice. I can live with the consequences of my bad decision, but my child couldn't.

[tommyjones]

Originally Posted by Radiant1

You assume I haven't walked in certain shoes. Pregnancy resulting from rape creates two victims, mother AND child.

Aww, hell, let's just murder the rape victim too due to her misery because she may not ever overcome it and later become a screwed up parent raising screwed up kids.

thats right, it is obvious you havn't walked in those shoes or you would be a little more empathetic (go look it up)

its the womans choice, she has to live with it.

[C6R_Mag]

Originally Posted by This_person

So, the mother is the only one with a "choice"? Not the baby, not the father?

So, a reasonable scenerio is that the father does not "choose" the child he chose to create. Should it be equally okay for him to "choose" not to support that child?

men "choose" to not support children everday. thats why there are single struggling mothers out there.

she chose that. i dont have a problem with her hardships and good times.

im saying it's about CHOICE and being the one to live with it after.

[This_person]

Originally Posted by C6R_Mag

men "choose" to not support children everday. thats why there are single struggling mothers out there.

she chose that. i dont have a problem with her hardships and good times.

im saying it's about CHOICE and being the one to live with it after.

Women choose to kill their babies everyday, too. My question was "is it okay" for that to happen, as in, is it morally, ethically, legally acceptable?

A woman does not have to live with the child they chose to create after bearing it. There are many adoption agencies begging for those babies. There are many family members who may or may not help. The only choice being denied now is the baby's choice to live.

[AndyMarquisLIVE]

Originally Posted by tommyjones

here's an idea, go get yourself rapped, and impregnated, raise the kid by yourself trying your best to have a normal life and get back to us with how you feel when you are done. until then do try to make the choice for these victims.

I totally support abortion in cases of rape.

I think, once the abortion occurs, they should charge the accused rapist with 1st degree murder as well.

I also have no problem with my tax dollars going to the state to feed and take care of children who are abandoned by their parents and the like.

Problem is, my taxpayer dollars are going to pointless nonsense.

[libby]

Clearly, some here are unable to connect the dots. Abortion makes the value of human life subjective, and that is the problem.
The value of the life of a baby is measured only by how much they are "wanted", or "planned" by the mother and/or father.
Every single person is equally and individually precious regardless of how others feel about them.
Black people are not lesser human beings because the law said so prior to 18-something-or-other. Or handicapped people less because (as cited in the original article) Margaret Sanger believes so. Jewish people are not less because of Hitler, and in that same way unborn babies are not less because the mother, or Roe v. Wade, or rape.

[AndyMarquisLIVE]

Originally Posted by This_person

Women choose to kill their babies everyday, too. My question was "is it okay" for that to happen, as in, is it morally, ethically, legally acceptable?

A woman does not have to live with the child they chose to create after bearing it. There are many adoption agencies begging for those babies. There are many family members who may or may not help. The only choice being denied now is the baby's choice to live.

There are lots and lots of people who want kids, but can't have them.