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Old 05-08-2008, 11:28 AM   #611 (permalink)
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like i said, stupid and hypocritical

stupid for posting personal information online (what parts are true are hard to say)

and hypocritical because the loose morals you practice in your own life (including having an abortion) while telling others they are wrong for making their own moral decisions.

How can one who calls themselves a catholic ignore MAJOR tenents of the church and not be a hypocrite?
It's downright scandalous how a supposedly immoral woman like myself is the one taking up for the underdog/unborn/unwanted citizens in society, isn't it?
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Old 05-08-2008, 11:33 AM   #612 (permalink)
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It's downright scandalous how a supposedly immoral woman like myself is the one taking up for the underdog/unborn/unwanted citizens in society, isn't it?
what is down right retarded is that a woman who leads a scadalous life is trying to prevent women from being able to obtain information on birth control.
Planned parenthood is about birth control. they may inform women who have missed the prevention boat about their options, but they are first and foremost about preventing unwanted pregnancies.


planned parenthood didn't do anything to you or force you to do anything, if you have lingering issues talk to your parents, and maybe a shrink.

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Old 05-08-2008, 11:46 AM   #613 (permalink)
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what is down right retarded is that a woman who leads a scadalous life is trying to prevent women from being able to obtain information on birth control.
Planned parenthood is about birth control. they may inform women who have missed the prevention boat about their options, but they are first and foremost about preventing unwanted pregnancies.


planned parenthood didn't do anything to you or force you to do anything, if you have lingering issues talk to your parents, and maybe a shrink.
I'm all for education on contraception, no problem there, as I said way earlier in this thread.

However, PP supports abortion and also readily performs them using my tax $ and that I take issue with. As I said, my past or my present doesn't change the facts.

You're right, PP isn't at fault in my personal case, the rapist, those responsible for Roe vs Wade and my parents are. I don't have lingering issues any longer, but thanks for caring.

I've made myself clear for anyone with any intellectual honesty, so I'll let you have the last word (you'd insist on having it anyway).
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I'm all for education on contraception, no problem there, as I said way earlier in this thread.

However, PP supports abortion and also readily performs them using my tax $ and that I take issue with. As I said, my past or my present doesn't change the facts.

You're right, PP isn't at fault in my personal case, the rapist, those responsible for Roe vs Wade and my parents are. I don't have lingering issues any longer, but thanks for caring.

I've made myself clear for anyone with any intellectual honesty, so I'll let you have the last word (you'd insist on having it anyway).
Roe v. Wade didn't do anything to you either. Only your parents (if they did indeed force you) are responsible for killing your baby. And the rapist, if that part of the story is true.

roe v. Wade is an inanimate document that con not force anyone to do anything.


and your past and present have EVERYTHING to do with you being a hypocrite.
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Old 05-08-2008, 11:55 AM   #615 (permalink)
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However, PP supports abortion
They also support education and awareness. They give women a choice. Have you ever looked at statistics for strict abortion laws vs. unrestricted? Which ones have the least amount of abortions a year?
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What percentage of the babies from IVF are INTENTIONALLY killed - as in, they were perfectly viable and attached fetuses that are manually removed from their womb? Now, what percentage of babies are INTENTIONALLY killed in abortion?
well they are INTENTIONALLY made knowing that they will die, I'd say that's pretty obvious.
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They also support education and awareness. They give women a choice. Have you ever looked at statistics for strict abortion laws vs. unrestricted? Which ones have the least amount of abortions a year?
In all seriousness, what difference does it make? I believe there are less "optional" abortions performed when they're illegal, but I fully admit there may be statistics (we know how accurate those are) out there that say different.

But, since when do we say something is okay because people do it anyway? Most everyone speeds, but there are speed limits. Murder is illegal, and happens daily; and we don't just say "well, it'll happen anyway, so let's repeal that law".
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well they are INTENTIONALLY made knowing that they will die, I'd say that's pretty obvious.
Knowing some will not make it full term due to natural causes, vs. intentionally killing most that would make it full term but life ended unnaturally.

Or, are you saying that a doctor performing an operation in the hopes of saving a life that's known to have only a 25% success rate is as much a murderer as a doctor shooting someone in the head?
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Knowing some will not make it full term due to natural causes, vs. intentionally killing most that would make it full term but life ended unnaturally.

Or, are you saying that a doctor performing an operation in the hopes of saving a life that's known to have only a 25% success rate is as much a murderer as a doctor shooting someone in the head?
natural?

I had no idea that in vitro was natural.

Care to give me a source?

face it. an embryo is an embryo. a life is a life. Intent shouldn't enter into it. Life should be (in theory) so precious (it is right?) that you shouldn't be willing to have 4 or so deaths just to get one you could adopt ....
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Or, are you saying that a doctor performing an operation in the hopes of saving a life that's known to have only a 25% success rate is as much a murderer as a doctor shooting someone in the head?
well if the doctor created the symptom ....
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