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Old 05-09-2008, 07:11 AM   #641 (permalink)
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I doubt if anyone has every said this in a serious tone.
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...Why doesn't that baby have a right to live just like the rest of us? Why is that baby's life less important than the mother's "choice" or the trees in the forest? Why is it more important to stand outside a jail and protest an execution than it is to stand outside an abortion clinic to protest abortions?
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What about the rest of Dork's questions?
what about them? go read my posts and my views should be pretty obvious.
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Putting it in is not natural. Once it's there, it's pretty natural. The miscarriages that happen from it are far more natural than an invasive procedure designed at yanking out the baby and destroying it.
No, once 'in there' it is anything but natural. Unless perhaps you'd find preengineered embryos en masse in nature. Growing on a tree maybe?

also, I'm 100% certain that implanting embryos is fairly invasive. the only differences being you may get a child, but you will definatly kill more lives.
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No, once 'in there' it is anything but natural. Unless perhaps you'd find preengineered embryos en masse in nature. Growing on a tree maybe?

also, I'm 100% certain that implanting embryos is fairly invasive. the only differences being you may get a child, but you will definatly kill more lives.
We've gone well beyond repeating ourselves enough that clearly neither one will "see the light" of the other's argument.

You believe something magic happens on the first day of the second trimester that turns a clump of cells into a human life (kinda), and I believe it's a human life from the beginning. You believe a mother has the right to kill her child up until a certain day of it's existence, and then she doesn't, and I believe she (virtually) never does. You believe an unnatural act of trying to get pregnant is just as murderous as destroying a human baby intentionally.

We'll never see eye to eye on this, and we've gone beyond useful debate.
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