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Old 05-16-2008, 10:33 AM   #41 (permalink)
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...it, Pete, CA has an infrastructure problem, a capacity problem. Rolling blackouts and brown outs have nothing to do with price; they are capacity issues. CA got behind on generation plants and transmission lines, both of which have limits.
Agree but because a few regions have allowed their infrastructure to be outdated does not mean the rest of the country has to put off advances. I say regions because I believe New England, particularly the corridor from NYC to Boston is not much better.
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Old 05-16-2008, 10:38 AM   #42 (permalink)
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You haven't been in Maine in February

Been to Minnesota several times never noticed them there. Spent 8 months in Alaska and didn't see them there but I was in a remote area most of the time. In Anchorage they might have them but I didn't see them. If there were going to be any it would be Fairbanks. In Fairbanks we had them on base but I didn't get out in town much
...so I dreamed it; a post apocalyptic fantasy replete with electric cars, extension cords and debit card transactions to keep your car from freezing and your batteries from dying with a guy whose father was a Muslim as president and a 100 year war against secular despots who have this stuff no one wants anymore called oil that has to continue due to government contracts accidentally having two zero's added to the length and term.

There ####ing oughta be places to plug in your car. How about that?
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Old 05-16-2008, 10:40 AM   #43 (permalink)
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Agree but because a few regions have allowed their infrastructure to be outdated does not mean the rest of the country has to put off advances. I say regions because I believe New England, particularly the corridor from NYC to Boston is not much better.
...California goes, so goes the nation. Auto standards, building standards. When there is a block of 50 some odd votes, a state tends to get legislation written their way.
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Old 05-16-2008, 10:40 AM   #44 (permalink)
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You haven't been in Maine in February
...I never will!
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Old 05-16-2008, 10:44 AM   #45 (permalink)
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...that. I envision charging outlets all over the place so that people can charge up while at the mall. Credit card operated perhaps. People in colder climes have engine block heaters and plug in's all over town. So, the point being that the charging would be spread out throughout the day.
We installed an "Electric Vehicle Charging Station" on the project I just finished.
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Old 05-16-2008, 10:47 AM   #46 (permalink)
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Doesn't the electric car just shift the pollution to the power plant?
No. It's much easier to clean up one large stationary smokestack than millions of tiny mobile ones.
if that were true, our wise and powerful leaders in Washington would have mandated the cleanup of the large smokestack instead of something stupid like millions of expensive catalytic converters that use rare precious metals
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Old 05-16-2008, 10:51 AM   #47 (permalink)
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I was in Maine and I never recall ever seeing any outlets for public use to plug in block heaters anywhere.
The hotels have them
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Old 05-16-2008, 11:00 AM   #48 (permalink)
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We installed an "Electric Vehicle Charging Station" on the project I just finished.
...Pete hasn't seen it. It doesn't exist.

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Old 05-16-2008, 11:00 AM   #49 (permalink)
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Old 05-16-2008, 11:11 AM   #50 (permalink)
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...Pete hasn't seen it. It doesn't exist.

OK, let me clarify. You were speaking of wide spread public outlets for people to plug in block heaters IE: a plug in right by the parking meter on Main street or in the parking spot at Safeway correct?
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