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Old 06-08-2008, 09:49 AM   #1
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Bill Moyer's on Iraq

MSM complicit with the Bush Administration is sending our country pell mell into a war that didn't need to be. I especially like that last sentence..



June 7, 2008

“We needed to know the truth about Iraq. The truth could have spared that country from rack and ruin, saved thousands of American lives and hundreds of thousands of Iraqi lives and freed hundreds of billions of dollars for investment in the American economy and infrastructure.

“But as Knight Ridder reporters told us at the time - one of the few organizations that systematically and independently set out to challenge the claims of the (Bush) administration, as my colleagues and I reported in our documentary on PBS Buying the War, as Scott McClellan has now confessed, and as the Senate Intelligence Committee confirmed just this week - the administration, with the complicity of the dominant media, conducted a political propaganda campaign using erroneous and misleading intelligence to deceive Americans into supporting an unprovoked war on another country, leading to a conflict that instead of being over quickly and bloodlessly as predicted, continues to this day into its sixth year.

“We now know that a neo-conservative is an arsonist who sets the house on fire and six years later boasts that no one can put it out.”
- Bill Moyers at the National Conference for Media Reform, June 7, 2008
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Old 06-08-2008, 09:51 AM   #2
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MSM complicit with the Bush Administration is sending our country pell mell into a war that didn't need to be. I especially like that last sentence..



June 7, 2008

“We needed to know the truth about Iraq. The truth could have spared that country from rack and ruin, saved thousands of American lives and hundreds of thousands of Iraqi lives and freed hundreds of billions of dollars for investment in the American economy and infrastructure.

“But as Knight Ridder reporters told us at the time - one of the few organizations that systematically and independently set out to challenge the claims of the (Bush) administration, as my colleagues and I reported in our documentary on PBS Buying the War, as Scott McClellan has now confessed, and as the Senate Intelligence Committee confirmed just this week - the administration, with the complicity of the dominant media, conducted a political propaganda campaign using erroneous and misleading intelligence to deceive Americans into supporting an unprovoked war on another country, leading to a conflict that instead of being over quickly and bloodlessly as predicted, continues to this day into its sixth year.

“We now know that a neo-conservative is an arsonist who sets the house on fire and six years later boasts that no one can put it out.”
- Bill Moyers at the National Conference for Media Reform, June 7, 2008
Sh!t!. I thought you misspelled 'in' by typing 'on'
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Old 06-08-2008, 10:46 AM   #3
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Bill Moyers needs to get a grip.
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Old 06-08-2008, 10:47 AM   #4
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Just for the sake of history: Roosevelt ,A Democrat promised no American boy would be lost in foreign war.

Truman a Democrat got us in the Korean war.

JFK a Democrat got us into Viet nam and chickend out on the Cubans at the Bay of Pigs leaving us with Castro. Damned near got us all nuked.

LBJ A Democrat expanded the Viet nam War

Carter helped depose the Shah of Iran leaving us the mess there.

Clinton bombed Kosovo when he wagged the dog.

Bush 1 saved Kuwait from Iraq.

Bush 2 ,? well history hasnt decided yet.

Bill Moyers? about as funny as cancer.
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Old 06-08-2008, 11:33 AM   #5
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MSM complicit with the Bush Administration is sending our country pell mell into a war that didn't need to be. I especially like that last sentence..



June 7, 2008

“We needed to know the truth about Iraq. The truth could have spared that country from rack and ruin, saved thousands of American lives and hundreds of thousands of Iraqi lives and freed hundreds of billions of dollars for investment in the American economy and infrastructure.

“But as Knight Ridder reporters told us at the time - one of the few organizations that systematically and independently set out to challenge the claims of the (Bush) administration, as my colleagues and I reported in our documentary on PBS Buying the War, as Scott McClellan has now confessed, and as the Senate Intelligence Committee confirmed just this week - the administration, with the complicity of the dominant media, conducted a political propaganda campaign using erroneous and misleading intelligence to deceive Americans into supporting an unprovoked war on another country, leading to a conflict that instead of being over quickly and bloodlessly as predicted, continues to this day into its sixth year.

“We now know that a neo-conservative is an arsonist who sets the house on fire and six years later boasts that no one can put it out.”
- Bill Moyers at the National Conference for Media Reform, June 7, 2008
Moyers isn't even original. He mimics Scott McClellan's allegations.

Response here: washingtonpost.com - nation, world, technology and Washington area news and headlines

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FTA: 'Complicit Enablers'? Not Quite.
By Ari Fleischer
Sunday, June 8, 2008; Page B07

Among the allegations in former White House press secretary Scott McClellan's book is his assertion that the national press corps was "too deferential to the White House" and that the media were "complicit enablers" of President Bush's agenda. The press, he charges, failed to aggressively question the rationale for war. As someone whose duty it was to assume the position of a human piñata every day in the briefing room, I only wish Scott were right.

Liberals have made this charge for years, and prominent reporters have split their verdicts. Critics and journalists have also said they were intimidated after Sept. 11, 2001, and pulled back from tough questions.

Katie Couric, who was at NBC in the lead-up to the war, has called it "one of the most embarrassing chapters in American journalism." ABC's Charlie Gibson says that journalists did ask hard questions but that the White House didn't answer them.

At the risk of agreeing with one of my toughest protagonists in the briefing room -- NBC's David Gregory -- the press was tough, plenty tough. I have the scars -- and the transcripts -- to prove it.


You really should do a little more research before posting, Buckwheat!

You'll be called out every time you try to rewrite history.
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Old 06-08-2008, 12:50 PM   #6
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World War 2, the greatest war ever fought, won by Americans let by a Democrat sitting in a wheel chair.

You forgot that Raygun and Bush supported holy warriors in Afghanistan that eventually became Al Qaeda... Blowback is hell ain't it?

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Just for the sake of history: Roosevelt ,A Democrat promised no American boy would be lost in foreign war.

Truman a Democrat got us in the Korean war.

JFK a Democrat got us into Viet nam and chickend out on the Cubans at the Bay of Pigs leaving us with Castro. Damned near got us all nuked.

LBJ A Democrat expanded the Viet nam War

Carter helped depose the Shah of Iran leaving us the mess there.

Clinton bombed Kosovo when he wagged the dog.

Bush 1 saved Kuwait from Iraq.

Bush 2 ,? well history hasnt decided yet.

Bill Moyers? about as funny as cancer.
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McClellan sold out for a buck.

No honor in the man. How can anyone believe a man without honor?
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Old 06-08-2008, 01:26 PM   #8
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World War 2, the greatest war ever fought, won by Americans let by a Democrat sitting in a wheel chair.

You forgot that Raygun and Bush supported holy warriors in Afghanistan that eventually became Al Qaeda... Blowback is hell ain't it?
You'd be the only one here to know about blowback. Does that come out your nose?

FDR didn't have a media and opposition party actively supporting Hitler. He didn't have Congresscritters calling our Marines 'murderers'. America was in it together. If the socialists weren't on the rag the last eight years cause they lost an election, we'd be united. But coming from the 'party of tolerance', it's always 'my way or the highway, you bible-totin', gun-luvin', bitter, ignorant red neck!'

And again, you're trying to rewrite history. On July 3, 1979, U.S. President Carter signed a presidential finding authorizing funding for anticommunist guerrillas in Afghanistan. As a part of the Central Intelligence Agency Operation Cyclone, the massive arming of Afghanistan's mujahideen was started. Zbigniew Brzezinski, United States National Security Advisor in 1977-1981, claimed that "we were actively and directly supporting the resistance movement in Afghanistan, the purpose of which was to fight the Soviet army".

You gotta hate it when your utopian theory is ruined by facts. Try getting an education and learn how to read!
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Moyers isn't even original. He mimics Scott McClellan's allegations.

Response here: washingtonpost.com - nation, world, technology and Washington area news and headlines

Link won't work properly.

FTA: 'Complicit Enablers'? Not Quite.
By Ari Fleischer
Sunday, June 8, 2008; Page B07

Among the allegations in former White House press secretary Scott McClellan's book is his assertion that the national press corps was "too deferential to the White House" and that the media were "complicit enablers" of President Bush's agenda. The press, he charges, failed to aggressively question the rationale for war. As someone whose duty it was to assume the position of a human piñata every day in the briefing room, I only wish Scott were right.

Liberals have made this charge for years, and prominent reporters have split their verdicts. Critics and journalists have also said they were intimidated after Sept. 11, 2001, and pulled back from tough questions.

Katie Couric, who was at NBC in the lead-up to the war, has called it "one of the most embarrassing chapters in American journalism." ABC's Charlie Gibson says that journalists did ask hard questions but that the White House didn't answer them.

At the risk of agreeing with one of my toughest protagonists in the briefing room -- NBC's David Gregory -- the press was tough, plenty tough. I have the scars -- and the transcripts -- to prove it.


You really should do a little more research before posting, Buckwheat!

You'll be called out every time you try to rewrite history.


Ari Fleischer is one of the good guys! I loved watching him dish it back to the press corps in his "silent but deadly" way. And usually with a smile.
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Old 06-08-2008, 02:46 PM   #10
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You'd be the only one here to know about blowback. Does that come out your nose?

FDR didn't have a media and opposition party actively supporting Hitler. He didn't have Congresscritters calling our Marines 'murderers'. America was in it together. If the socialists weren't on the rag the last eight years cause they lost an election, we'd be united. But coming from the 'party of tolerance', it's always 'my way or the highway, you bible-totin', gun-luvin', bitter, ignorant red neck!'

And again, you're trying to rewrite history. On July 3, 1979, U.S. President Carter signed a presidential finding authorizing funding for anticommunist guerrillas in Afghanistan. As a part of the Central Intelligence Agency Operation Cyclone, the massive arming of Afghanistan's mujahideen was started. Zbigniew Brzezinski, United States National Security Advisor in 1977-1981, claimed that "we were actively and directly supporting the resistance movement in Afghanistan, the purpose of which was to fight the Soviet army".

You gotta hate it when your utopian theory is ruined by facts. Try getting an education and learn how to read!
when Facts smack Forestool down into the hole. He then runs to find some new quote followed by more error-filled commentary. He is one of the few loser-lefties I do not block because of the way you shut him down. Its comical.
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