Bush finally concerned about Bin Laden.

[This_person]

Originally Posted by Xaquin44

damn Andy

he called you 'Ellen'

LOOK OUT FOR THIS GUY!

He just finds the idea repulsive and wants the law to reflect his bigotry.

nothing new here in other words.

I called Andy "Ellen" because she attempted to make the same pointless, invalid argument.

What I find homosexuality to be is not the question, nor accurately described by your words. I want the law to reflect equality, and accuracy, not bigotry.


You're wrong.


Nothing new here, in other words.

[Larry Gude (Premo)]

Originally Posted by This_person

As noted at least twice above, I agree. I just don't think the word "marriage" is the same as equal protection. I think a status of equal protection is equal protection. I think a fishing licence to hunt is dumb, and marriage license to two people of the same sex is equally dumb. However, a hunting license let's you kill animals, and a fishing license lets you kill fish. A marriage license lets two people of opposite sex marry, and a civil union lets two people of the same sex have the same legal rights and responsibilities.

...I could care less about the whole subject other than the law and I think if states long ago said "Sure, you morons wanna get married, have it it" there wouldn't be a queer from here to the moon that would wanna do something so straight. Having said that, if they wanna marry, they gotta get a license. They go down and are refused. So, that's begging for a showdown and it's a showdown that was bound, to me, to go only one way.

Watch and see what happens with this referendum. I'll be surprised if Californians still want marriage to be defined as a man and a woman. People's reactions are usually different from their considered responses.

[This_person]

Originally Posted by Larry Gude

...I could care less about the whole subject other than the law and I think if states long ago said "Sure, you morons wanna get married, have it it" there wouldn't be a queer from here to the moon that would wanna do something so straight. Having said that, if they wanna marry, they gotta get a license. They go down and are refused. So, that's begging for a showdown and it's a showdown that was bound, to me, to go only one way.

Watch and see what happens with this referendum. I'll be surprised if Californians still want marriage to be defined as a man and a woman. People's reactions are usually different from their considered responses.

They actually chose it beforehand. That's why the law was there as it was. As you read in the article, it's likely to go against the wishes of the minority (the homosexual rights population). By fighting the way they did, they're likely to have harmed their own cause.

They were refused the license for something that didn't apply to their situation. Had they asked for all of the same rights and responsibilities of a marriage license, only one that applied to their situation (the domestic partnership/civil union thing), there would be no problem, and everyone would be considered equally.

[Larry Gude (Premo)]

Originally Posted by This_person

They actually chose it beforehand. That's why the law was there as it was. As you read in the article, it's likely to go against the wishes of the minority (the homosexual rights population). By fighting the way they did, they're likely to have harmed their own cause. .

...that and I did read that. I'm calling that the reaction and we'll see this fall when they have a chance to think it over.

[This_person]

Originally Posted by Larry Gude

...that and I did read that. I'm calling that the reaction and we'll see this fall when they have a chance to think it over.

Fair enough!