Global warming - phooey

[2ndAmendment (Premo)]

Originally Posted by PAGE NINE

The Uninvited Ombudsman Report, No. 50
by Alan Korwin, July 30, 2008

Permission to circulate granted

WASHINGTON -- Mathematical proof that there is no "climate crisis" appears today (7/15/08) in a major, peer-reviewed paper, "Physics and Society," a learned journal of the 10,000-member American Physical Society.

Christopher Monckton, who once advised Margaret Thatcher, demonstrates, using 30 equations, that computer models used by the UN's climate panel (IPCC) were pre-programmed with overstated values for the three variables whose product is "climate sensitivity" (temperature increase in response to greenhouse-gas increase), resulting in a 500-2000% overstatement of CO2's effect on temperature in the IPCC's latest climate assessment report, published in 2007.

Climate Sensitivity Reconsidered APS Physics | FPS | Climate Sensitivity Reconsidered demonstrates that later this century, a doubling of the concentration of CO2 compared with pre-industrial levels, will increase global mean surface temperature not by the 6 °F predicted by the IPCC but harmlessly, by little more than 1 °F.

The paper reveals the following:

• Not one of the three key variables whose product is climate sensitivity can be measured directly;
• The IPCC's values for these key variables are taken from only four published papers, not 2,500;
• "Global warming" halted ten years ago, and surface temperature has been falling for seven years;
• Not one of the computer models relied upon by the IPCC predicted so long and rapid a cooling;
• The IPCC inserted a table into the scientists' draft, overstating the effect of ice-melt by 1000%;
• Mars, Jupiter, Neptune's largest moon, and Pluto warmed at the same time as Earth warmed;
• In the past 70 years the Sun was more active than at almost any other time in the past 11,400 years.

Although the IPCC concluded in 2007 that anthropogenic CO2 emissions would cause rapid warming, global mean surface temperature has not risen since 1998 and graphs show it falling since late 2001. The present analysis suggests that the failure of the IPCC's models to predict this and many other climatic phenomena arises from defects in its evaluation of math factors beyond most people's ability to comprehend. If you want to see what climate models look like, and gaze at the incomprehensible (to me at least) math, click the link above.

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[Baja28]

Al Bore is gonna be pissed!!

[Lenny]

Originally Posted by Baja28

Al Bore is gonna be pissed!!

No he won't. He has learned from Rev. Al "Twana Brawley who?" Sharpton to use every one of these attacks on his cash cow as an opportunity to tickle the believers to donate, donate, donate.

[LordStanley]

Its a good thing we still have global climate change to argue about.

[Baja28]

Originally Posted by LordStanley

Its a good thing we still have global climate change to argue about.

Well a 7 mile piece of the arctic ice did just break off. :sonicbeercooler:

[LordStanley]

Originally Posted by Baja28

Well a 7 mile piece of the arctic ice did just break off. :sonicbeercooler:

Hopefully it will find its way down to the patuxent river, lowering the water temp, chasing away the jellies, so we can enjoy the rest of the summer!

[aps45819 (Premo)]

Flipping thru the channels last night and Nat Geo had some global warming crap about the glaciers in the Himalayas. They noted that if the glaciers are gone the millions of people down hill in India/Pakistan will lose a major source of water, since they've depended on water from the melting glaciers for centuries.
I was
If they've been melting for centuries, why is it a recently caused problem?

[SamSpade]

Originally Posted by aps45819

If they've been melting for centuries, why is it a recently caused problem?

They also build up again. The argument is on the net and rate of melt-off, just as it is in other areas of the world. But once they're gone, so is the source of water.

[Lenny]

Originally Posted by SamSpade

They also build up again. The argument is on the net and rate of melt-off, just as it is in other areas of the world. But once they're gone, so is the source of water.

From where does the water come that freezes and builds up the glaciers?

[SamSpade]

Originally Posted by 2ndAmendment

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Unless there's been a change recently, the APS itself does not agree with the paper, and still has a disclaimer on their homepage saying it has NOT been peer reviewed.