Sun made global warming???

[drmatsci]

Originally Posted by Larry Gude

...for crying out loud.


Man made global warming is a farce especially when you enter the sun and natural, earth bound factors into the equation.

...

We 'deniers' are not the ones running around saying we KNOW exactly what is going on...

Funny, Larry, it looks to me like you are the one THAT KNOWS global warming can't be real.

[drmatsci]

Larry, it amazes me you post obscure and wrong information regarding your position but don't post the large amount of news that supports global warming. You know, stuff like big chunks of Alaska's permafrost melting, the sea ice near record lows (last year was a record low), the fact that we are changing the atmosphere (that in itself is fact) - you know, go talk to native alaskan eskimos and ask what changes they have seen in the last 50 years. I bet they would be happy to tell you, or heck, turn on your TV and watch the discovery channel. They have plenty of shows where they ask them those questions.

[bcp (Premo)]

Originally Posted by drmatsci

Larry, it amazes me you post obscure and wrong information regarding your position but don't post the large amount of news that supports global warming. You know, stuff like big chunks of Alaska's permafrost melting, the sea ice near record lows (last year was a record low), the fact that we are changing the atmosphere (that in itself is fact) - you know, go talk to native alaskan eskimos and ask what changes they have seen in the last 50 years. I bet they would be happy to tell you, or heck, turn on your TV and watch the discovery channel. They have plenty of shows where they ask them those questions.

did Larry say there was no global warming, or did he say that man is not a big part of the global warming.

big difference,

still wondering how our emissions are making it to Mars causeing that planet to warm up also.

[Larry Gude (Premo)]

Originally Posted by bcp

did Larry say there was no global warming, or did he say that man is not a big part of the global warming.

big difference,

still wondering how our emissions are making it to Mars causeing that planet to warm up also.

...you're not keeping up.

See, the way this works is, they say "Man is KILLING the planet! We're all gonna die! Man made global warming!!!" Then, when the absurdity of that sinks in, the story changes to "THE PLANET IS HEATING UP!!! REALLY BAD!!! Climate change! Global warming!!!!" Then, when it starts cooling off, it becomes "It's worse than we ever feared! It's soooooo hot, it's cold!!!!"

See?

[ImnoMensa]

Originally Posted by Larry Gude

...you're not keeping up.

See, the way this works is, they say "Man is KILLING the planet! We're all gonna die! Man made global warming!!!" Then, when the absurdity of that sinks in, the story changes to "THE PLANET IS HEATING UP!!! REALLY BAD!!! Climate change! Global warming!!!!" Then, when it starts cooling off, it becomes "It's worse than we ever feared! It's soooooo hot, it's cold!!!!"

See?

They are convinced its all mans fault, No amount of real science will change their minds.

Also if it isnt mans fault they cant get rich selling Carbon Credit schemes.

[Larry Gude (Premo)]

Originally Posted by ImnoMensa

They are convinced its all mans fault, No amount of real science will change their minds.

Also if it isnt mans fault they cant get rich selling Carbon Credit schemes.

...that be an inconvenient truth, to find that the Church of Al is really just a giant scheme to give international corporations even more control and to make even more money?

[drmatsci]

Must of you are more interested about 'Al' and his so called campaign of evil - I don't care what Al is doing or what he says, he isn't producing the data i look at, he didn't cause the sea ice to melt to its lowest level last year nor does he rule my judgement.

REAL science? Who's job is it to do real science? Maybe NOAA? And I have posted plenty of information before provided by NOAA. I can't say the planet won't cool starting next week, but I can say what NOAA has said from looking at their own data and everyone else's. What I find odd is that some of you percieve climate change to be some 'attack' on you and your lifestyle, as if you were so important that someone would go to that length. You guys are crazy, open your eyes and go read so REAL data and news. AND we are changing our atmosphere, there is no doubt of that, so one has to hypothesize that changing our atmosphere might effect our climate? Geez, um, its not rocket science or brain surgury... but some of you just don't get it.

[Toxick]

Originally Posted by bcp

did Larry say there was no global warming, or did he say that man is not a big part of the global warming.

big difference,

still wondering how our emissions are making it to Mars causeing that planet to warm up also.

Two words.


Spirit.
Opportunity.



They have the same emissions on them as do our earthbound Hummers, Suburbans, and Navigators.


Humans and their filthy ravenous machines. Spewing out vile toxins. Did you know that the average fish today contains more mercury than a rectal thermometer?

WOULD YOU EAT A RECTAL THERMOMETER???!?!

[bcp (Premo)]

Originally Posted by drmatsci

Must of you are more interested about 'Al' and his so called campaign of evil - I don't care what Al is doing or what he says, he isn't producing the data i look at, he didn't cause the sea ice to melt to its lowest level last year nor does he rule my judgement.

REAL science? Who's job is it to do real science? Maybe NOAA? And I have posted plenty of information before provided by NOAA. I can't say the planet won't cool starting next week, but I can say what NOAA has said from looking at their own data and everyone else's. What I find odd is that some of you percieve climate change to be some 'attack' on you and your lifestyle, as if you were so important that someone would go to that length. You guys are crazy, open your eyes and go read so REAL data and news. AND we are changing our atmosphere, there is no doubt of that, so one has to hypothesize that changing our atmosphere might effect our climate? Geez, um, its not rocket science or brain surgury... but some of you just don't get it.

what I find odd is that people are willing to accept with limited data, that man alone is the cause of global warming. To the point that so much energy and time is being spent on how we can fix it, that nothing is being spent on how to live with it if we cant fix it.

The people insisting that we single handedly have caused this are going to end up getting us all caught with our speedos down when it gets too hot to continue as a speices, with no back up plan.

[bcp (Premo)]

Originally Posted by Toxick

Two words.


Spirit.
Opportunity.



They have the same emissions on them as do our earthbound Hummers, Suburbans, and Navigators.


Humans and their filthy ravenous machines. Spewing out vile toxins. Did you know that the average fish today contains more mercury than a rectal thermometer?

WOULD YOU EAT A RECTAL THERMOMETER???!?!

Your data is not complete enough to make an intellegent decision on this question, has that thermometer been used? once? many times?

all that aside, I dont eat fish either, tastes nasty as hell to me.