Sun made global warming???

[Larry Gude (Premo)]

How CAN that be???

DailyTech - Sun Makes History: First Spotless Month in a Century

The sun has reached a milestone not seen for nearly 100 years: an entire month has passed without a single visible sunspot being noted.

The event is significant as many climatologists now believe solar magnetic activity – which determines the number of sunspots -- is an influencing factor for climate on earth.

But will the rest of us? In the past 1000 years, three previous such events -- the Dalton, Maunder, and Spörer Minimums, have all led to rapid cooling. On was large enough to be called a "mini ice age". For a society dependent on agriculture, cold is more damaging than heat. The growing season shortens, yields drop, and the occurrence of crop-destroying frosts increases.

Well, at least one thing is still true; WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE!!!

[Lenny]

Originally Posted by Larry Gude

How CAN that be???

DailyTech - Sun Makes History: First Spotless Month in a Century

Well, at least one thing is still true; WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE!!!

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[ItalianScallion (Premo)]

Sooo very true. The other reason that the temperature has dropped is that Al Gore hasn't talked as much in the last month or 2.
The next problem is fining and imprisoning Gore because of the hype and MILLIONS of bucks he caused us all to spend on his farse called global warming! He should be brought up on serious charges!
I am a radio operator who depends on the lack of sunspots and other solar activity to be able to communicate effectively on the radio. We have just ended a long 11 year solar cycle and only recently have communications gotten back to normal. NOT TO MENTION TEMPERATURES, so I know firsthand that solar activity IS the cause of warmer weather. The solar storms can extend out hundreds (thousands?) of miles from the sun's surface so just imagine what it does to the 2 closer planets.

[frozenrain]

Hopefully it will melt some of the forumites keyboards on here. I will not have to read bigoted political comments.
There I feel much better

[Lenny]

Originally Posted by frozenrain

Hopefully it will melt some of the forumites keyboards on here. I will not have to read bigoted political comments.
There I feel much better

...from the rest of the world. It would take higher (that means greater, larger, much hotter) temperatures to melt keyboards. The prediction is for lower (less than, going down, not as hot) temperature in the near future.

[Larry Gude (Premo)]

Originally Posted by ItalianScallion

Sooo very true. The other reason that the temperature has dropped is that Al Gore hasn't talked as much in the last month or 2.
The next problem is fining and imprisoning Gore because of the hype and MILLIONS of bucks he caused us all to spend on his farse called global warming! He should be brought up on serious charges!
I am a radio operator who depends on the lack of sunspots and other solar activity to be able to communicate effectively on the radio. We have just ended a long 11 year solar cycle and only recently have communications gotten back to normal. NOT TO MENTION TEMPERATURES, so I know firsthand that solar activity IS the cause of warmer weather. The solar storms can extend out hundreds (thousands?) of miles from the sun's surface so just imagine what it does to the 2 closer planets.

...should Algore be penalized for starting his own cult? He can sell ice cubes on the North Pole all day long. It's not his fault if some moron buys them.

[The Oyster Guy]

...But the data cited in the article shows that sunspot activity has been decreasing ever since the modern maxima around 1960... So if variation in solar activity is the predominant variable governing climate change on earth, why then, did the earth grow warmer during a period when solar activity was decreasing???

[Larry Gude (Premo)]

Originally Posted by The Oyster Guy

...But the data cited in the article shows that sunspot activity has been decreasing ever since the modern maxima around 1960... So if variation in solar activity is the predominant variable governing climate change on earth, why then, did the earth grow warmer during a period when solar activity was decreasing???

...for crying out loud.

How about sun spot size? Duration? How about what goes on INSIDE the sun that we are nearly clueless about? How about variances in earths orbit? We're squabbling over terrifically minor temperature fluctuations as though the sun and the earth are these perfect lab specimens that are 100% consistent at all times.

If you buy into all the hysteria and non sense about earth's temperature, then you gotta buy into the temperatures of Mars being accurate and that alone ends the conversation; We didn't warm it up, too.

Man made global warming is a farce especially when you enter the sun and natural, earth bound factors into the equation.

[The Oyster Guy]

Originally Posted by Larry Gude

...for crying out loud.

How about sun spot size? Duration? How about what goes on INSIDE the sun that we are nearly clueless about? How about variances in earths orbit? We're squabbling over terrifically minor temperature fluctuations as though the sun and the earth are these perfect lab specimens that are 100% consistent at all times.

If you buy into all the hysteria and non sense about earth's temperature, then you gotta buy into the temperatures of Mars being accurate and that alone ends the conversation; We didn't warm i up, too.

Man made global warming is a farce especially when you enter the sun and natural, earth bound factors into the equation.

It doesn't matter whether you look at the number of sunspots, or the Average Planetary Magnetic index (Ap) http://wattsupwiththat.files.wordpre...hed-july08.png, the trend is the same: both have been decreasing in recent decades, but the earth's temperature has been increasing.

And as far as Martian warming, it seems that the surface of Mars has grown darker since the 1970s (as a result of periodic cycles in martian duststorms?) and as a consequence, Mars has been collecting more heat from the sun. Clue to Mars' warming is seen - Los Angeles Times

All the deniers seem to dismiss the role of atmosphere in regulating climate, but without an atmosphere - earth would be as cold and intemperate as our moon.

[Larry Gude (Premo)]

Originally Posted by The Oyster Guy

It doesn't matter whether you look at the number of sunspots, or the Average Planetary Magnetic index (Ap) http://wattsupwiththat.files.wordpre...hed-july08.png, the trend is the same: both have been decreasing in recent decades, but the earth's temperature has been increasing.

And as far as Martian warming, it seems that the surface of Mars has grown darker since the 1970s (as a result of periodic cycles in martian duststorms?) and as a consequence, Mars has been collecting more heat from the sun. Clue to Mars' warming is seen - Los Angeles Times

All the deniers seem to dismiss the role of atmosphere in regulating climate, but without an atmosphere - earth would be as cold and intemperate as our moon.

...so, you readily accept that Mars has grown darker and therefore the heating is not related to my SUV. That's good. Can you also apply the same healthy logic to the earth? Or is the earth a static model that has only ONE variable, my SUV emissions?

We 'deniers' are not the ones running around saying we KNOW exactly what is going on, EXACTLY what the consequences are and EXACTLY what was must done nor are we the ones saying even if none of that is true we MUST act anyway. Just to be sure. This is a reverse flat earth argument. The DOOM crew are arguing a flat earth based on what they feel and seem to need the problem and solution to be, never mind all sorts of other possibilities and, frankly, probabilities.

My side is saying, when chicken little stops long enough to listen, that there is an awful lot to this and boiling it all down to ONE factor is not only NOT backed by the facts and science, it's also counterproductive to useful 'solutions' and effective cooperation, whatever the 'problems' actually are.