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Old 09-17-2008, 12:09 PM   #31 (permalink)
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you are completely missing the point that REGAN had them held until he was inagurated. he could have had them released sooner but he wanted the release to coincide with the event, and he didn't want carter getting the credit. Or do you think all this was planned on on the january morning?

if it was me, i would have wanted to be released earlier, not used as a pawn in regan's political game.

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Read the document, and please point to the section which implies that Reagan had them held until he was inagurated.

I have, and I couldn't locate it.
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Old 09-17-2008, 12:50 PM   #32 (permalink)
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unless he negotiated their release the morning of his inaguration, then yes, he coul dhave had them released sooner.
So the answer would be "No, I have no proof, it's pure speculation on my part!"

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Old 09-17-2008, 01:18 PM   #33 (permalink)
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I dont think it is treason,
but I do think he should not be undermining a sitting president to advance his personal agenda.
rather pompus if you ask me.

Now, if he says something that can be linked to a breach in the countries security, then I say hang him in a public square for his crimes.
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Old 09-17-2008, 05:03 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Somebody here is full of chit and I think its Tommy Jones.

Reagan did not negotiate with anyone to release the hostages. He announced in his campaign that he would free them and he hinted that it would be pretty hard on the country holding them.

Iran saw that Reagan wasnt bullchitting like Carter was and they knew that American troops would soon be on the way after Reagan was inaugurated. At this point they turned them loose before Reagan turned loose the armed forces.

That is the story , this crap about Reagan negotiating with Iran before his inauguration is a boatload of chit.
If you have proof show it if not STFU, because you dont know what the hell you are talking about.

These people were not a pawn in any game Reagan was playing, because Reagan wasnt playing games and the Iranians knew it.

Iran-Contra had nothing to do with the 52 hostages held while Carter was President.

Iran Contra had to do with trying to get Iran to help get 6 hostages released from Hezbollah.
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Old 09-17-2008, 05:38 PM   #35 (permalink)
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Somebody here is full of chit and I think its Tommy Jones.

Reagan did not negotiate with anyone to release the hostages. He announced in his campaign that he would free them and he hinted that it would be pretty hard on the country holding them.

Iran saw that Reagan wasnt bullchitting like Carter was and they knew that American troops would soon be on the way after Reagan was inaugurated. At this point they turned them loose before Reagan turned loose the armed forces.

That is the story , this crap about Reagan negotiating with Iran before his inauguration is a boatload of chit.
If you have proof show it if not STFU, because you dont know what the hell you are talking about.

These people were not a pawn in any game Reagan was playing, because Reagan wasnt playing games and the Iranians knew it.

Iran-Contra had nothing to do with the 52 hostages held while Carter was President.

Iran Contra had to do with trying to get Iran to help get 6 hostages released from Hezbollah.
You go for it pal! I admire your posits, especially your 4th and 5th statements. Way to go!!

BTW, I must admit I erred in an earlier post, where I stated Reagan went in
there and got our troops out of harms way. He did not. He merely exerted enough "diplomatic pressure" on Iran's leaders, so that they decided to release them, and send them to another country, so they could be flown to Germany for medical evaluation, I believe.
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Old 09-17-2008, 05:39 PM   #36 (permalink)
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Reagan did not negotiate with anyone to release the hostages. .
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Old 09-17-2008, 06:16 PM   #37 (permalink)
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Think he considered the salesman.
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It was a good one though.
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Think he considered the salesman.
...I LOVE that story!
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