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Old 11-14-2008, 07:03 AM   #1
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Civilian Worker's Car Banned From Base

A Camp Lejeune civilian employee filed a federal lawsuit this week accusing base officials of violating his constitutional rights by requiring him to remove anti-Islamic bumper stickers from his Toyota.

Base officials say numerous complaints compelled them to act, and since Jesse Nieto would not remove his "offensive stickers" they removed his Department of Defense decal instead.

As result, Nieto, a retired Vietnam War veteran who has worked aboard base since 1994, is not able to use his vehicle to visit Arlington National Cemetery, the site where his son was buried after he died in the 2000 terrorist attack on the U.S.S. Cole.

The lawsuit - which targets base commander Col. Richard Flatau and base traffic court officer Lt. Col. James Hessen - challenges the Marine Corps' actions citing a violation of Nieto's constitutional rights to freedom of speech and equal protection under the law. The lawsuit was filed earlier this week by Jacksonville attorney Wally Paramore and the Ann Arbor, Mich., Thomas More Law Center in the U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of North Carolina.



Political correctness run amok?



Break: Civilian base employee files federal lawsuit against Camp Lejeune CO | stickers, nieto, base : Jacksonville Daily News
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Old 11-14-2008, 07:14 AM   #2
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A Camp Lejeune civilian employee filed a federal lawsuit this week accusing base officials of violating his constitutional rights by requiring him to remove anti-Islamic bumper stickers from his Toyota.

Base officials say numerous complaints compelled them to act, and since Jesse Nieto would not remove his "offensive stickers" they removed his Department of Defense decal instead.

As result, Nieto, a retired Vietnam War veteran who has worked aboard base since 1994, is not able to use his vehicle to visit Arlington National Cemetery, the site where his son was buried after he died in the 2000 terrorist attack on the U.S.S. Cole.

The lawsuit - which targets base commander Col. Richard Flatau and base traffic court officer Lt. Col. James Hessen - challenges the Marine Corps' actions citing a violation of Nieto's constitutional rights to freedom of speech and equal protection under the law. The lawsuit was filed earlier this week by Jacksonville attorney Wally Paramore and the Ann Arbor, Mich., Thomas More Law Center in the U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of North Carolina.



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Break: Civilian base employee files federal lawsuit against Camp Lejeune CO | stickers, nieto, base : Jacksonville Daily News
Hell yes. What next, banning confederate flags?
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Old 11-14-2008, 07:17 AM   #3
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Lawsuit happy, anyone? If the base had a policy in place and he violated it this is 100% his fault.

They even gave him a chance to comply and he refused.

Using his son as a tearjerking sympathy ploy is disgusting. You don't need a sticker to visit Arlington.
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Old 11-14-2008, 07:19 AM   #4
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A Camp Lejeune civilian employee filed a federal lawsuit this week accusing base officials of violating his constitutional rights by requiring him to remove anti-Islamic bumper stickers from his Toyota.

Base officials say numerous complaints compelled them to act, and since Jesse Nieto would not remove his "offensive stickers" they removed his Department of Defense decal instead.

As result, Nieto, a retired Vietnam War veteran who has worked aboard base since 1994, is not able to use his vehicle to visit Arlington National Cemetery, the site where his son was buried after he died in the 2000 terrorist attack on the U.S.S. Cole.

The lawsuit - which targets base commander Col. Richard Flatau and base traffic court officer Lt. Col. James Hessen - challenges the Marine Corps' actions citing a violation of Nieto's constitutional rights to freedom of speech and equal protection under the law. The lawsuit was filed earlier this week by Jacksonville attorney Wally Paramore and the Ann Arbor, Mich., Thomas More Law Center in the U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of North Carolina.



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Break: Civilian base employee files federal lawsuit against Camp Lejeune CO | stickers, nieto, base : Jacksonville Daily News
I hope this guy wins big time. If it had been a sticker against Christians, they wouldn't have made such a big deal out of it. Damn country is gong down the toilet.
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Old 11-14-2008, 07:24 AM   #5
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No, and the key here is his equating all followers if Islam with terrorism. They are not all terorists, and to do so is bigotry. Thats the problem. If he singled out Islamic terrorists with his stickers, then he might have a leg to stand on.

Would it be fair or right to condemn all Americans as rapists and murderers because of those servicemen who raped that 14yo Iraqi girls and killed her, her parents, and sister? No. Same here.



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Hell yes. What next, banning confederate flags?

If you read the article, they use as an example just that, a confederate flag sticker that no one has said anything about.

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Lawsuit happy, anyone? If the base had a policy in place and he violated it this is 100% his fault.

They even gave him a chance to comply and he refused.

Using his son as a tearjerking sympathy ploy is disgusting. You don't need a sticker to visit Arlington.

This is true.
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I hope this guy wins big time. If it had been a sticker against Christians, they wouldn't have made such a big deal out of it. Damn country is gong down the toilet.
"They" didn't make a big deal out of it, the guy who violated policy did. He's using the Muslim thing to trick you into rooting for him and you fell for it.

If you had anti-christian stickers on your car that violated base policy they would do the same thing.

You don't have a "right" to drive on base. You may be granted that privilege, but you are a guest subject to the CO's policies.

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I have heard about people at PAX having to remove the "NMCI Sucks" bumper stickers from their cars.

The anti-Bush bumper stickers really should be part of this policy, I have seen some fairly offensive ones on base.
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"They" didn't make a big deal out of it, the guy who violated policy did. He's using the Muslim thing to trick you into rooting for him and you fell for it.

If you had anti-christian stickers on your car that violated base policy they would do the same thing.

You don't have a "right" to drive on base. You may be granted that privilege, but you are a guest subject to the CO's policies.
If it was printed out in a policy it would be one thing. Its not though. People complained so they wanted to appease them. Them being? Muslims I'll bet. Why don't they ban the piss on ford or chevy window stickers? Is that appropriate for a little girl to see?
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I have heard about people at PAX having to remove the "NMCI Sucks" bumper stickers from their cars.

The anti-Bush bumper stickers really should be part of this policy, I have seen some fairly offensive ones on base.
I'd like to see this "policy". I think it's BS.
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