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Old 11-19-2008, 07:21 PM   #61
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You are asking me like I changed it...
Ask the good ole' boys in congress...
You wrote "They are black"
I duly corrected you.
My question stands.
Now apologize.
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Old 11-19-2008, 07:23 PM   #62
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You wrote "They are black"
I duly corrected you.
My question stands.
Now apologize.
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Old 11-19-2008, 07:35 PM   #63
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Old 11-19-2008, 07:37 PM   #64
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And just by your answer alone, you are considering him black (because Blah blah blah
you live with your mom and play with yourself while looking at the native women with the titties hanging to ground dont you.

seriously, you post like you are 16. You have never been in the military, the closest you have come to working is McDonalds isnt it?

You crack me up..
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Old 11-19-2008, 07:52 PM   #65
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And just by your answer alone, you are considering him black (because you are referring to his skin tone)....OH AND BY THE WAY..HE'S NOT THAT DARK.
No just bcp and the rest of us.

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Barack Obama turned Wednesday to the task of building an administration in times of crisis as Americans and the world absorbed his history-shattering achievement as the first black leader ascending to the presidency.
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Barack Obama, a 47-year-old first-term senator from Illinois, shattered more than 200 years of history Tuesday night by winning election as the first African-American president of the United States.
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Obama defeated Republican John McCain in one hard-fought battleground state after another on his way to becoming the nation's first black president.
The list could be rather long, but you get the point.
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Old 11-19-2008, 08:59 PM   #66
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"Thou shalt not kill"
what exactly do you propose?

Outlaw abortion and make every case (be it miscarriage or etc.) a murder investigation?

Good luck with that.

Thou shalt not kill is an interesting phrase anyway .... How many people did god kill in the bible?
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Old 11-19-2008, 09:02 PM   #67
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Thank you! What part of "Thous shalt not kill" doesn't apply to abortion. What kind of Bible are you reading? Perhaps none at all!
I guess it depends on when you say life starts.

Also, you have to take into account that you're hardly in charge of every single females reproductive organs .... so good luck telling them what they can and can not do with them.
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Old 11-19-2008, 09:13 PM   #68
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what exactly do you propose?

Outlaw abortion and make every case (be it miscarriage or etc.) a murder investigation?

Good luck with that.

Thou shalt not kill is an interesting phrase anyway .... How many people did god kill in the bible?
First of all the order "Thou shalt not kill" was given to man from God. God created life and has the authority to end whenever He sees fit.

Secondly, anyone that proposes to outlaw abortion doesn't get it. Abortions are going to happen regardless of the law. And this is increasingly true as life becomes cheaper and cheaper. Christians shouldn't use the law to assert their agenda, they should use their influence through their faith to affect change in peoples' hearts. You don't reach people by forcing them to make decisions based on laws; you reach them through teaching the sanctity of life and respect for the soul.

The problem Christians are running into is our increasingly progressive society pushing God out of the public space. That is the legal battle we should fight.
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Old 11-20-2008, 11:38 AM   #69
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...The problem Christians are running into is our increasingly progressive society pushing God out of the public space. That is the legal battle we should fight.
progressives are not pushing God out; He will not allow that.
But wingnut Xtians can not put their god as the state religion!
'...take the sheet of yo head, boy, itsa brand new day! respect yourself...' the staples singers

now, the original pretext of this post:
''...Let's clear up a few things. The right is all in a tizzy because it is trying to project itself onto Obama. It's Sarah Palin and the resentment machine who sent chills down the spine of everyone who ever studied fascism. It is George W. Bush who turned out to be the crypto-socialist (at least for banks, not automakers). It's the far-left blogger types and other leftists who will also flip out and throw tantrums because Obama seems to be governing from the vital center, with the occasional left lean, but they should've known that in the first place.
Stop second-guessing Obama and trust him. He beat the Clintons, and he beat the GOP. Obama saw things nobody else saw. He won fraggalackin' Indiana, formerly a Klan-stronghold. Perhaps I'll regret this, but the man is a genius. I always liked him, but at first I didn't think he could win. I jumped on board after Iowa, sweated through the primary and obsessed about the general election. Sure, I doubted him a few times—maybe more than a few times—right up until the last week. I was proven wrong every time. Every time! Obama's vision seems based on not only better sets of data than most informed people, but it's what he does with his data that makes him so brilliant. So he removed certain policy proposals from change.gov. Well, maybe the briefings he's been receiving have caused him to rethink the proposals. If so, I think it's great.
Obama will succeed because he will be a true-blue American pragmatist, the culmination and most practical expression of America's philosophical tradition. With its roots in Franklin and Emerson, most sophisticated expression in Charles Peirce, William James, Oliver Wendell Holmes Jr., George Herbert Mead and John Dewey, and rebirth in Richard Rorty, et al.He will look at situations and study what has worked, what might work, what won't work, and figure out what probably will work. If that does not work, he will find something that should work. In the days after election, I imagined that the 2012 map would be solid blue, with Obama taking 50 states. I am now shocked to hear one-term murmur—based on the economy! Don't worry. Just because the people on Wall Street who wrecked the economy did not know what they were doing does not mean Obama does not know how to fix it quickly.(Besides, it's not as if people who knew what they were doing were on the government side of things either for the past eight years. How is Chrysler doing, Secretary Snow? Oh, OK. Good luck with that.)
Reagan and Clinton had rocky first terms and were reelected by handy margins. George H.W. Bush was defeated not by the economy (stupid) but by a combination of Perot and weariness with 12 years of the GOP (a factor Perot fed on). Jimmy Carter was beat by the hostage crisis and a Reagan one-liner that I never understood.President-elect Barack Obama has earned our trust. Get off his case. Emanuel and Biden are there to make sure nobody (Clintons, Congress) dares to make mischief for him. Unless Obama really screws something up, he will sail to a second term in 2012, take a few years off and perhaps ascend to the Supreme Court at 60. Remember where you heard it first.

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Old 11-20-2008, 12:24 PM   #70
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First of all the order "Thou shalt not kill" was given to man from God. God created life and has the authority to end whenever He sees fit.
So god is a huge hypocrite.

gotcha.

oh hey .... guess what?

The man and the woman created the life and have the authority to end whenever they see fit (well until the second trimester).

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The problem Christians are running into is our increasingly progressive society pushing God out of the public space. That is the legal battle we should fight.
What legal battle? Church and state are separate. If society is slowly pushing god out of it's way, then that is it's own business. Maybe it'll follow all the other now defunct religions.

The world will continue to be just fine.
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