California Gays just wont give up! Damn Freaks!

[Merlin99 (Premo)]

Originally Posted by bcp

you know, if they would just agree to calling it something other than marriage, they would have had the "rights" they seek a long time ago.

civil unions could give them everything they want, and most would agree to that, but using the word marriage puts a whole new spin on things and that is what makes it offensive to most.

Their demand to use the word marriage is what causes me to belive they are trying to force acceptance to their relationship.

Looking at how everyone has responded to this, it looks like marriage is a church function and a civil union is a government function. If that's the case why not go with it, if they can find a church willing to perform the service they're married, if they go to the courthouse then they have a union?

[Lugnut]

Originally Posted by Nucklesack

You keep agreeing with me and your really going to get in trouble with Vrai.... play it safe, just say Nu Uh

Originally Posted by Larry Gude

...we're in luck, then. I'm not agreeing with you. You're agreeing with me!

Originally Posted by Nucklesack

Nuh Uh

This was the best part of the whole thread!

[bcp (Premo)]

Originally Posted by Merlin99

Looking at how everyone has responded to this, it looks like marriage is a church function and a civil union is a government function. If that's the case why not go with it, if they can find a church willing to perform the service they're married, if they go to the courthouse then they have a union?

nope, civil no matter how you look at it. Any church that "Marries" them is not in accordance with the Bible and therefore is not a real church with values anyway.
Civil union will give them everything they claim to want, I dont see the problem with this.

[Merlin99 (Premo)]

Originally Posted by bcp

nope, civil no matter how you look at it. Any church that "Marries" them is not in accordance with the Bible and therefore is not a real church with values anyway.
Civil union will give them everything they claim to want, I dont see the problem with this.

Not all religions use the bible.

[Xaquin44]

hurf durf a black theatre is the same as a white theatre why won't they shut up and be happy hurf a durf a durf rubble rubble

[This_person]

Originally Posted by Xaquin44

hurf durf a black theatre is the same as a white theatre why won't they shut up and be happy hurf a durf a durf rubble rubble

Actually, it's not.

See, people going to a theater and being selected out based upon race, color, creed, or sexual orientation would be discriminatory.

No one is saying that a black person can't marry, but a white person can (or vice versa). No one is saying that a homosexual can't marry, but a heterosexual can. They're saying that "marrying" consists of a man and woman formally joining in a legal union. And, in the case of California, a man and man or woman and woman can ALSO join in a a legal union, but that union has a different name (because it's a different type of union, made up of same gendered people instead of opposite gendered people).

Again, a heterosexual who chooses a civil union with another person of the same gender is able to get a civil union, and a homosexual who chooses to enter a marriage with someone of the opposite gender may get married. No one is denied anything, nor discriminated against.

But, nice try. Next time, think through what you say before you "hurf durf" an answer.

[Rosehaven]

Gay people should have the same rights as straight people. They fall in love. They build a life together. Is that "love" or that "life" different than what straight people experience? You know the answer. Don't be scared of differences---be scared of being the same as everyone else.

[This_person]

Originally Posted by Rosehaven

Gay people should have the same rights as straight people. They fall in love. They build a life together. Is that "love" or that "life" different than what straight people experience? You know the answer. Don't be scared of differences---be scared of being the same as everyone else.

You're right, they should!!

And, they should celebrate their lives together, they should buy homes together, they should grow old and travel........... Whether their union is a "union", a "partnership", or a "rainbow kiss" should have no bearing on any of these things for their life together.

And, of course, all of this is true TODAY for them. No one denies them a single right. If they want to call their union a "marriage", then by all means they should.

But, that does NOT mean that the state should also call it that. Just because I call my SUV a "boat trailer" to try and get the cheaper tags for it doesn't mean the state should comply. Because I call my income "too small for taxes" does not mean the state should simply agree.

But, I'm free to do that, it's my right.