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Old 04-21-2010, 11:21 AM   #1
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"Conservatives have evidently worked themselves into something of an incoherent snit over the FDA’s plans to limit sodium in processed foods. If I understand the anxiety correctly, a cooperative effort between the federal government, industry representatives and public health experts to gradually (and I would imagine quite modestly) reduce sodium levels over a ten-year period is pretty much the sort of thing that Pol Pot did before depopulating the cities and having everyone gouged to death with bamboo.

As a public health matter, reducing sodium levels in the food supply seems like a perfectly decent idea and would be the most efficient way of addressing the problems caused by a diet overloaded with salt. Americans consume more sodium (by most estimates twice, by some estimates three times) than we need; most of our sodium comes from processed food; the epidemiological data demonstrate a compelling link between excessive sodium intake and unpleasant health outcomes like coronary heart disease and stroke (among other misfortunes); gradual reductions sodium intake seem to have measurable benefits for blood pressure; and the best available evidence suggests that we might reduce deaths from CHD, stroke and heart attack by tens of thousands (if not more) simply by knocking back average sodium consumption to the levels currently recommended by the CDC (i.e., 2300 mg/day for the general population). "

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"in any event, there’s obviously always room for debate about the potential efficacy of public policy — but it’s probably not a debate worth having with people harboring primal fears that Barack Obama is coming to steal their Funyuns. Unfortunately, that seems to be the level at which the public discourse about food and public health usually takes place, so wingnuts should at least take heart in that."

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Old 04-21-2010, 12:25 PM   #2
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Can you post ONE article that does not use derogatory comments to present their opinion?
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Old 04-21-2010, 01:06 PM   #3
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Can you post ONE article that does not use derogatory comments to present their opinion?
Did you forget? Nonothing uses cut and paste. None of the comments are his own.
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Old 04-21-2010, 01:14 PM   #4
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Can you post ONE article that does not use derogatory comments to present their opinion?
Liberals usually resort to name-calling when they can't back up their arguments with facts and logic. It's their way.
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Old 04-21-2010, 01:49 PM   #5
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FDA, federal government, Pol Pot, Barack Obama, Funyuns. These are a few of my favorite things
Yo cum 4 my cheez doodles n purple soda i beet yo azz! yung! str8 UP!
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Old 04-21-2010, 01:56 PM   #6
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If it's not needed, why don't the manufactures of processed food just reduce the amount of sodium they add?
Why does the federal government need to get involved?



...or will food taste like crap without it?
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Did you forget? Nonothing uses cut and paste. None of the comments are his own.
I know that. And I like to read newsworthy articles that get shared. However, I don't want to read snide, rude comments that detract from any intent that the author may have had to be informative. I believe if NoNo is making the effort to share articles in the news portion of this forum, then he needs to take on the responsibility to ensure that he's sharing factual info, not name calling - which makes me not want to read anything and shuts me completely out of hearing a "different" side if that's his intent.

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Liberals usually resort to name-calling when they can't back up their arguments with facts and logic. It's their way.
That's a shame. I'm up for open debate. I'm up for different points of view, but again, name calling detracts from any point being made.

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...or will food taste like crap without it?
Yes.
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Old 04-21-2010, 02:21 PM   #8
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I know that. And I like to read newsworthy articles that get shared. However, I don't want to read snide, rude comments that detract from any intent that the author may have had to be informative. I believe if NoNo is making the effort to share articles in the news portion of this forum, then he needs to take on the responsibility to ensure that he's sharing factual info, not name calling - which makes me not want to read anything and shuts me completely out of hearing a "different" side if that's his intent.
The intent is to publicly marginalize both you and your opinion.
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Old 04-22-2010, 08:26 AM   #10
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the epidemiological data demonstrate a compelling link between excessive sodium intake and unpleasant health outcomes like coronary heart disease and stroke
If you would do some more research Doddo, I mean Nonno, you would find that there is no significant link between the two. It hasn't been proven that excessive sodium intake causes heart disease. You lose.

While it is probably a good idea to reduce sodium intake, because the trend does point that direction, education would seem the way to go about that change, not forcing people to do it at the tip of the government sword!
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