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Old 02-16-2004, 02:40 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Why are you laughing? Many gay rights groups DO work to indoctrinate young people into their "club". What do you think Queer Nation is all about?
That's just as wrong as older men trying to seduce teenage girls. (I've read that most of the fathers of teen mothers' babies are in their 20s and older.) Statutory rape and sexual predation are wrong, no matter if they're straight or gay.

Still, I laugh because I believe that the vast majority of people can't be "recruited" into gayness or straightness. I just don't buy the notion that a person's romantic and sexual impulses can be reprogrammed, like uninstalling Windows and installing Linux.

If the guys in Queer Nation were straight, I believe they would still be sexual predators, except they would be going after teenage girls. I pity them if they truly believe they can take some 12-year-old boy who has stacks of Hustler in his bedroom and convince him to get turned on by some guy's hairy azz.
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Old 02-16-2004, 02:46 PM   #12 (permalink)
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That's just as wrong as older men trying to seduce teenage girls. (I've read that most of the fathers of teen mothers' babies are in their 20s and older.) Statutory rape and sexual predation are wrong, no matter if they're straight or gay.

Still, I laugh because I believe that the vast majority of people can't be "recruited" into gayness or straightness. I just don't buy the notion that a person's romantic and sexual impulses can be reprogrammed, like uninstalling Windows and installing Linux.

If the guys in Queer Nation were straight, I believe they would still be sexual predators, except they would be going after teenage girls. I pity them if they truly believe they can take some 12-year-old boy who has stacks of Hustler in his bedroom and convince him to get turned on by some guy's hairy azz.
Oh, but you can be programmed. It's through your subconscious mind. I'm not saying I agree with what the article was asserting, but your mind is just like a computer. Garbage in = garbage out. If you look at porn (gay or straight) all day, then that's what you are going to think about. The mind is very powerful and can make a heaven of hell or a hell of heaven. I personally don't care if you believe it, but it is for your own good.
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Old 02-16-2004, 02:55 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Tonio, these gay groups aren't trying to be pedophiles - they're trying to get more kids to be gay so their numbers will increase. This "normalizes" them. Think about it and it makes perfect sense.
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And by "indoctrination", they don't necessarily mean kids should turn gay. They mean that kids should consider homosexuality completely normal and not aberrant in any way.
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Yep... It's all in your mind anyway. There is no such thing as being a homo.... God created man & woman, gave them two distinctly different souls(Masculine & feminine) and that was it... These people who think they are gay, just have perverted minds from reading/watching/associating with others of the same nature.... I'm sure it stimmed from a perverted curious mind, but this is what it has come to.
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These people who think they are gay, just have perverted minds from reading/watching/associating with others of the same nature.... I'm sure it stimmed from a perverted curious mind, but this is what it has come to.
Now that I don't agree with. The gay people I know personally were raised in a hetero environment, but knew they were gay about the time they hit puberty and the sexual impulses started kicking in. I do know a gal that decided to become a lesbian, after 20-some years of heterosexuality, so it IS possible to "become gay".
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Now that I don't agree with. The gay people I know personally were raised in a hetero environment, but knew they were gay about the time they hit puberty and the sexual impulses started kicking in. I do know a gal that decided to become a lesbian, after 20-some years of heterosexuality, so it IS possible to "become gay".
you are wrong on this one, Vrai! It's all in their mind. You don't know what was going on behind the scenes(or in their mind) for this person to think they were gay, or want to be gay.
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Old 02-16-2004, 03:41 PM   #18 (permalink)
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You don't know what was going on behind the scenes(or in their mind) for this person to think they were gay, or want to be gay.
My BIL is gay and is very forthcoming and unembarrassed about discussing it. My Mom being in AA, I've known gays all my life that would openly discuss it, without silliness or "gay pride". So I can't speak for all gays, obviously - this is just what I know from my handful of gay friends.
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My Mom being in AA, I've known gays all my life that would openly discuss it
A querie if I may, what does AA have to do with gayness?
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Now that I don't agree with. The gay people I know personally were raised in a hetero environment, but knew they were gay about the time they hit puberty and the sexual impulses started kicking in. I do know a gal that decided to become a lesbian, after 20-some years of heterosexuality, so it IS possible to "become gay".
Good points, Vrai. I'm not an Alfred Kinsey, but my gut feeling is that lesbianism is less about sex and more about relationships. There's a trend toward teenage girls having girlfriends. I suspect they are simply frustrated at boys pressuring them for sex without intimacy.
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