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Old 03-19-2012, 09:54 AM   #1
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Arrow Trayvon Martin would be alive if.....

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"If George Zimmerman didn't break every rule in the book when it comes to Neighborhood Watch programs, he came close.

Zimmerman called Sanford police on Feb. 26, a rainy Sunday evening, to report a suspicious person inside his neighborhood near Seminole Towne Center.

We don't know everything that happened in the 13 minutes that passed between the time Zimmerman, 28, called police and a paramedic pronounced 17-year-old Trayvon Martin dead.

But this much isn't in dispute: Zimmerman was armed. He was alone. And while waiting for police, he somehow got into a fight with the person he thought suspicious.

All three of those actions are strongly discouraged by the National Sheriffs' Association, which oversees about 20,000 Neighborhood Watch programs.

There are practical reasons for those rules.

And this absolutely heart-wrenching one: A family of a teenager is now coping with a death that probably could have been avoided.

"There is no reason in the world to carry a gun for Neighborhood Watch," said Chris Tutko, a retired police chief who now directs Neighborhood Watch for the sheriffs' association. "It gets people more into trouble than out of it."

A manual published by the association for its "USAonWatch" program makes that very clear.

"It should be emphasized to members that they do not possess police powers and they shall not carry weapons or pursue vehicles," the manual states. "Members should never confront suspicious persons who could be armed and dangerous." "
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Old 03-19-2012, 10:02 AM   #2
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Not a fan of vigilante justice, but I hope a large group of people sodomize the POS with a pineapple, repeatedly.
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Old 03-19-2012, 10:12 AM   #3
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Not a fan of vigilante justice, but I hope a large group of people sodomize the POS with a pineapple, repeatedly.
Some surely would, if would ever emerge from his Mom's basement long engouh.


Oh...wait ..you meant the 'other' idiot..the Zimmerman guy.
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I listened to the 911 recordings and you can hear the young man screaming for help while a neighbor is calling the police. She and her boyfriend were afraid to go help him. This is so sad that kid had a tea and bag of skittles in his hands walking to his Dad's house. Zimmerman called it in and the dispatcher told him that they were on the way but he stated they always get away so he was following him. That kid in no way was a threat to him. He had his own agenda. The recording is heart wrenching, my stomach was in knots hearing the kid screaming help me and then the shots. Senseless......
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Old 03-19-2012, 11:12 AM   #5
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This wouldn't have happened if we had a criminal justice system we, the people, trusted. Fact is, we don't. That creates an environment of distrust. Distrust in the cops. Distrust in the courts. Distrust in lawyers. Distrust in all the criminals who do, in fact, get away with rape, robbery and murder and distrust in our sentencing, our jails, what goes on in them, ultimately, distrust in one another.

This happened because we, the people, do not trust our criminal justice system. We do not think it is just.

This is horrible. The killing, perhaps murder, of an innocent young man. The probable destruction of a person out trying to do good for his community for making terrible decisions.
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Old 03-19-2012, 11:31 AM   #6
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I listened to the 911 recordings and you can hear the young man screaming for help while a neighbor is calling the police. She and her boyfriend were afraid to go help him. This is so sad that kid had a tea and bag of skittles in his hands walking to his Dad's house. Zimmerman called it in and the dispatcher told him that they were on the way but he stated they always get away so he was following him. That kid in no way was a threat to him. He had his own agenda. The recording is heart wrenching, my stomach was in knots hearing the kid screaming help me and then the shots. Senseless......
Zimmerman said he was the one screaming for help. Some s**t huh?
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Old 03-19-2012, 11:34 AM   #7
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I think all facts need to come out before making judgement.
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I think all facts need to come out before making judgement.
The hell you say!!!


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Old 03-19-2012, 12:06 PM   #10
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I think all facts need to come out before making judgement.
Not sure what else you need. Man shot and killed an unarmed kid despite police instructions not to approach him. Pretty cut and dry regardless of what the kid was doing, if anything at all.
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