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Old 04-19-2012, 12:58 PM   #101
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Speaking of facts, is it true that even the White House weighed in on this matter? Something about wanting to know what was done with the dog afterward?

Or did I hear it incorrectly maybe...?
I dunno but I saw a Heinz 57 delivery truck leaving the WH.
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Old 04-19-2012, 01:03 PM   #102
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I dunno but I saw a Heinz 57 delivery truck leaving the WH.
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Old 04-19-2012, 01:24 PM   #103
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You got me there, if you don't carry a gun, you can't shoot it. Sorry, couldn't help that one.

Some of us do have weapon carry permits. Albeit MD it's a little tougher to get one, but they will fold soon to the inevitable right to carry tide, with proper training and background check.
I wish MD would stop waisting taxpayer money to fight the inevitable.

Oh well, only a few more weeks and my Utah CCW should be here. I'll be able to carry in pretty much every state surrounding MD....except MD



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Speaking of facts, is it true that even the White House weighed in on this matter? Something about wanting to know what was done with the dog afterward?

Or did I hear it incorrectly maybe...?
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I dunno but I saw a Heinz 57 delivery truck leaving the WH.


I have to admit....that was pretty funny
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Old 04-19-2012, 06:05 PM   #104
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[QUOTE=Chris0nllyn;4808175]I wish MD would stop waisting taxpayer money to fight the inevitable. I agree!


Oh well, only a few more weeks and my Utah CCW should be here. I'll be able to carry in pretty much every state surrounding MD....except MD

Should I worry?
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Old 04-19-2012, 06:21 PM   #105
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Should I worry?
It's usually the guys that don't apply for permits that you have to worry about.
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Old 04-19-2012, 07:17 PM   #106
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It's usually the guys that don't apply for permits that you have to worry about.
I'll have to give you that one!
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Old 04-20-2012, 09:43 AM   #107
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Chief apologizes for Cisco's death | KXAN.com

At least someone apologized. The friggin cop is heard snapping at the owner "Why wasn't he on a leash?", like it is the owners fault. He was in his own yard! Everything that happened was a direct result of the cops actions, yet he had absolutely no remorse or empathy. Ridiculous. The only thing he could say was "Talk to my supervisor". So he's tough enough to shoot a small dog, but not tough enough to talk to the owner man-to-man.

So the police force tells the public in 2010 that they will start educating officers....and in 2012 there is no such training? Lovely.
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Old 04-20-2012, 10:35 AM   #108
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At least someone apologized. The friggin cop is heard snapping at the owner "Why wasn't he on a leash?", like it is the owners fault. He was in his own yard! Everything that happened was a direct result of the cops actions, yet he had absolutely no remorse or empathy. Ridiculous. The only thing he could say was "Talk to my supervisor". So he's tough enough to shoot a small dog, but not tough enough to talk to the owner man-to-man.

So the police force tells the public in 2010 that they will start educating officers....and in 2012 there is no such training? Lovely.
A dog running loose in the owner's yard is OK only as long as it's inside a fence, right?
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A dog running loose in the owner's yard is OK only as long as it's inside a fence, right?
Do you have an electric meter in the backyard? Or anything else needed to be serviced/read by outside the home people (good name isn't it )? I'm sure it would come down to judge to rule on specific situation.
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Cop Shoots Dog: Untrained Officers Commit 'Puppycide' (PHOTOS)

At the bottom are pictures, and accounts of police shooting owner's dogs.

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When a neighbor spotted Rosie, a Newfoundland, running into traffic in November 2010, she called the police to come help the dog. Officers from the Des Moines, Wash., Police Department said that when they cornered the dog in a neighbor's backyard, she appeared threatening. One officer shot her four times, killing her. The neighbor in whose backyard Rosie was shot told KOMO news, "I was shocked to see an assault rifle. I was shocked to see three police officers aiming their guns at a dog that was a huge dog, but I mean the dog was no threat." The officers were cleared of wrongdoing.

Training: A police spokesman wouldn't say if officers get dog-related training, saying only that the department always calls the city animal control department to handle calls involving dogs. He wouldn't say why animal control wasn't called in this case.
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When John Espinoza of Lubbock, Texas, found intruders in his garage in July 2011, he chased the criminals down the street. In the commotion, the family dog, a Saint Bernard named Payton, escaped from the house. When police officers arrived to investigate, Payton ran out of the garage to greet them. The police shot her in the head, in front of Espinoza, his wife, and their two daughters. Police then refused the family's request to bury their pet, calling animal services to dispose of Payton's body. Police told local media outlets that it is standard procedure for officers to use deadly force if an animal endangers them.

Training: Sgt. Frank Picon of the Lubbock Police Department told HuffPost that officers get no specific training related to dogs. Be it dogs or humans, common sense dictates when an officer should use lethal force, Picon said.
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When Bollinger County, Mo., Sheriff's Deputy Kelly Barks received permission to search the home of a man arrested for domestic abuse in March 2011, she found three dogs growling at her. She mistakenly believed one of the dogs, a chihuahua, had bitten her, so she shot it. After discovering she actually hadn't been bitten, Barks shot the dog twice more, the last time as the dog retreated to its kennel. Barks later resigned. In response, the Bollinger County Sheriff Leo McElrath said he would add new training for his deputies.

(Note: Photo is not of the chihuahua from the story.)

Training: The Bollinger County Sheriff's Department did not return HuffPost's request for information.
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In December 2010, a police officer who had responded to a complaint in a Jonesboro, Ga., subdivision walked past the King family home on his way back to his car when Buddy, the Kings' golden retriever, leaped from the porch. Buddy was kept in his yard by an invisible fence. The officer, who said Buddy was "barking and running," fatally shot the dog. A neighbor who witnessed the shooting told ABC News Buddy was "not an attack dog. He's a golden retriever and that's it. I've known this dog since he was a puppy."

The officer was cleared of wrongdoing.

Training: The Clayton County Police Department did not return HuffPost's queries.
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In 2008 Dixie, a 2-year-old sheepdog, was playing in her family's yard when police arrived to serve legal papers. Officers asked family members to restrain the dog. They complied by shutting Dixie inside the home. A few minutes later, the owner's 2 year-old niece pushed open a door, and Dixie ran outside. While two children watched, the deputies shot the dog. The person the officers sought no longer lived at the address.

A Charles County police spokesperson defended the officers: "It is unfortunate that the accidental release of the dog, when a child opened the door, resulted in a situation where an officer felt his safety was threatened."

Training: The police department did not respond to requests for information about training.
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When the Bullock family returned home from a funeral in June 2009, they discovered their pet chihuahua mix Jack dead on their porch, along with a note to call the police in Blue Ash County, Ohio. The Bullocks had inadvertently had left Jack outside. When police officers arrived to corral the seven-pound dog, he bit one officer. Another officer jolted Jack with a Tazer, then shot the dog three times. The Bullocks were fined $100 for violating the city's vicious dog ordinance.

Training: Blue Ash County police did not answer requests for training information.
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In June 2009, a Danville, Va., police officer serving two warrants at a neighboring house shot and killed "Killer," a miniature dachshund that, despite his name, neighbors described as a "sweet, mild-mannered dog." Owner Tawaiin Harper says Killer's killer was leaning against his squad car smoking a cigarette after the incident, and refused to provide his name or badge number. The officer's supervisor later apologized.

Danville Police Chief Philip Broadfoot also wouldn't name the officer, but said in a press release that upon returning to his squad car after serving the warrants, the officer noticed the 11-pound dog running toward him, "leaving him with just seconds to consider his options." Instead of getting into his car, the officer shot the dog, which Broadfoot added, is "within the department's policy."

Training: Danville police did not answer requests for training information.
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Bubba was a 7-year-old Labrador-springer spaniel mix who played with neighborhood children and worked in a local nursing home. In 2004, while Bubba and his owner were entertaining friends in his backyard, Milwaukee officers approached looking for a wanted man. The dog jumped the three-foot fence to greet them and officers shot him twice.

Police said Bubba was acting aggressively. Seven witnesses said the dog retreated to the bushes and whimpered toward his owner before officers fired two more times, killing him. Police wrote Bubba's owner a $122 ticket for allowing the dog to run loose.

In a 2008 lawsuit against the city, Bubba's owner discovered that Milwaukee police shoot and kill about 40 dogs a year.

Training: A Milwaukee police spokesman told HuffPost that animal control officials give officers tips on dealing with animals. Officers are taught to differentiate between an aggressive dog and a territorial dog, police said.
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