PA Police beating

[SoMDGirl42]

Originally Posted by Chris0nllyn

I have a family friend that has been a DC cop since '87. He's retiring in October because of the constant BS his department puts up with. He said other seasoned officers were retiring, or leaving also. What does that mean? Less seasoned officers, and more rookies.

Another opening for my son, the future cop!!!!

[Chris0nllyn]

Originally Posted by Baja28

I can rip your posts to shreds but don't feel like taking the time because you provide way too much fodder.

Do you really think depts. hire 2 rookies every time a vet retires?? I guess no one moves up. Talk about no common sense.....

I'll just let readers draw their own conclusions.

Again, tell me where I said that....

I said they COULD.

Stop trying to circumvent the entire point I'm trying to make.

I'd love to see your "ripping", because your argument doesn't hold weight. You believe everything in the police report, and I showed an example of why you shouldn't and the only thing you can come up with is this?

[Chris0nllyn]

Originally Posted by SoMDGirl42

Another opening for my son, the future cop!!!!

Best of luck to him.

Baja doesn't think they hire rookies when one retires though....

[Baja28 (Premo)]

Originally Posted by Chris0nllyn

Best of luck to him.

Baja doesn't think they hire rookies when one retires though....

Ummmm...no dum dum. YOU said they hire TWO. JFC it's time to let you be. See the problem with arguing with an idiot is they drag you down to their level and beat you with experience. Carry on pal.

[Chris0nllyn]

Originally Posted by Baja28

Ummmm...no dum dum. YOU said they hire TWO. JFC it's time to let you be. See the problem with arguing with an idiot is they drag you down to their level and beat you with experience. Carry on pal.

You work for DCPD?

[protectmd]

I would argue that your partially correct from what I read in the news and speaking with individuals. Your right, in DC/PG/Metro transit etc, many other big departments there are 2 classes of cops. Rookies and veterans ready to retire. There is no inbetween because in the early 90's there was mass hiring. Just like there is "mass hiring" right now, money funded for by federal grants, etc. The opportunity for local/state governments to hire more officers and pay for training. The other half of that is for most of these big departments, the attrition rate is the worst of probably anywhere in the US, whether its Baltimore or DC or PG. This Obamagrant money goes to these departments without any oversight against the management as to how many individuals who are hired are actually retained for a period of over 5 years.

For example, in Baltimore City, they extended the retirement regardless of the contract the officers were hired under forcing them to work longer years to gain that retirement. Many simply quit, some with 15 years or more on leaving the department scrambling to fill the slots paying out even more money in overtime just to patrol the city. - Poor leadership/oversight.

DC, PG, Metro transit, is just as bad, with many officers graduating academies and going to other agencies after just a few years on, forcing the government to hire more and more to fill retirement slots as well as people who are fired/quit etc. Sure the retirement is good, but who wants to put up with working in communities that frequently restrict, micromanage, criticize, and punish officers for simply doing their job. Nobody who has any level of intelligence wants to continue to work at a place that simply places the officer at fault no matter what the situation. I recently read an article that stated that Metro Transit Police officers were labeled grade D officers. The intelligent people often quit and move to other agencies or careers.

The hiring procedures of these departments are simply substandard if you look at them. DC doesn't require someone to take a polygraph, simply taking an applicants word that they aren't a criminal. Many of the agencies rarely if ever venture to military bases or college campus's making an attempt to hire the best and brightest out of a pool of qualified applicants. These agencies more than often, go into places like Barry Farms and other drug/crime infested areas and hire whoever they can out of there ones with a "clean" record, often giving "residency credits" to applicants who live in the thick of it all. The result is simply the equivalent of "Training Day" hiring "Gangsters with badges." Its not a shock when you see these officers getting arrested and prosecuted simply because the agencies have poor hiring practices to begin with.

These beating videos that are displayed are often a symptom of poor management of the agencies and poor hiring practices. They are a symptom of poor community management as well. For example #19, you have a history of rioting in College Park Maryland. It simply doesn't shock me that you see 2 officers beating the hell out of a citizen who was participating in rioting. The rioting there has been going on for 20+ years, and it will continue due to the lack of accountability of university officials for their students, lack of oversight for liquor stores and bars by Prince Georges County Alcohol control board officials for bars violating policies, lack of fire code enforcement for establishments harboring intoxicated individuals, poor training policies by police departments who are forced to deal with individuals who are intoxicated and impaired. You see the police are clearly outnumbered, most states you would see state police and national guard out dealing with rioting that occurs, not a local police department. If you put someone who's been out there all night outnumbered, clearly the frustration level goes up and what you will have is a goon dressed in black clubbing someone to death. Its very convenient to blame the entire event on the officer swinging the stick. Im not defending his actions, he should be punished, however in a riot you must understand that the individuals who were rioting were given the opportunity to go home.

These videos you see are simply a symptom of officers who are simply fed up and probably taking out frustrations from all past experiences out on one individual. I wouldn't really know because im not a police officer, just an average citizen, however, if I was living in an area where rioting was occurring, I can guarantee you that my level of protection would not be a wooden baton against marauders and looters, it would clearly be on the level of lead/copper/tungsten core ammunition, whether its a college student or hardened hoodlum.

[justiceforall]

Originally Posted by Chris0nllyn

The guy didn't get those injuries from being tased.

That's the picture form the police department, unaltered.

Please, enlighten me what other facts I need.

You admit you don't have all the facts. You admit you don't believe this guy. The cops said this guy put up a violent struggle. Sorry, but police work is sometimes violent. Don't fight with the police and you won't get your face punched in.

[justiceforall]

Originally Posted by Chris0nllyn

I have a family friend that has been a DC cop since '87. He's retiring in October because of the constant BS his department puts up with. He said other seasoned officers were retiring, or leaving also. What does that mean? Less seasoned officers, and more rookies.

Hey you stupid ass, when I hit my 22 i'm gone too! You know why! BECAUSE I CAN!!!! Thats why we have a 22 year retirement you dummy!!!!

[justiceforall]

Originally Posted by Chris0nllyn

I'll take his word for it.

And please, point out where I said there were only 2 classes...

Let's use a bit of common sense here (is that hard for you?). Officers retire after many years of service. Many years of service = higher pay. The department can now hire 2 rookies right out of the academy for the price of one high ranking officer.

Now, the chief can go on camera and say, "We added xx officers to our force, everyone feel safe now!", and that also brings int eh federal grant money.

NO you nimrod!!! You are such a douche! That isn't how it works. You get person for person. If your agency's number is 2000, and you have 200 retire, so you have 1800, you get to hire 200 more. It doesn't matter how much money the 200 that retired were making you idiot! God you are stupid.

[Chris0nllyn]

Originally Posted by justiceforall

You admit you don't have all the facts. You admit you don't believe this guy. The cops said this guy put up a violent struggle. Sorry, but police work is sometimes violent. Don't fight with the police and you won't get your face punched in.

Do you punch people while on duty?

"The cops said..."

I don't give a sh!t what the guy did. There is NO excuse for that man to look like that, and for an officer to punch him hard enough in the face to break his hand, something is wrong.

I bet you'd feel like a tough guy beating on someone in handcuffs, and can't fight back.

Originally Posted by justiceforall

Hey you stupid ass, when I hit my 22 i'm gone too! You know why! BECAUSE I CAN!!!! Thats why we have a 22 year retirement you dummy!!!!

Originally Posted by justiceforall

NO you nimrod!!! You are such a douche! That isn't how it works. You get person for person. If your agency's number is 2000, and you have 200 retire, so you have 1800, you get to hire 200 more. It doesn't matter how much money the 200 that retired were making you idiot! God you are stupid.

Aww, did I hurt your widdle feelings?

Stop focusing on that, and tell me why certain officers lie on the police reports to cover their ass.

I guess if you can't do that, you fly off the hinges calling people names.

I bet you do that at work too. Tough guy...