Zimmerman Bond Hearing Today

[blazinlow89]

Originally Posted by thatguy

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Read the words, like I said "does not describe severity"

A cut refers to a skin wound with separation of the connective tissue elements. Unlike an abrasion (a wound caused by friction or scraping), none of the skin is missing the skin is just separated. A cut is typically thought of as a wound caused by a sharp object (such as a knife or a shard of glass).

The term laceration implies a torn or jagged wound. Lacerations tend to be caused by blunt trauma (such as a blow, fall, or collision).

An irregular open wound caused by a blunt impact to soft tissue.

Sorry but something about "minor cut" does not sound like what a "laceration" would be. They may be the same in terms of a wound, from what I can find a cut is just that a cut, from a sharp object. Meanwhile a laceration is a really bad cut which can be caused from a blunt impact. A minor cut would then be what a paper cut.

[thatguy]

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Originally Posted by blazinlow89

Sorry but something about "minor cut" does not sound like what a "laceration" would be. They may be the same in terms of a wound, from what I can find a cut is just that a cut, from a sharp object. Meanwhile a laceration is a really bad cut which can be caused from a blunt impact. A minor cut would then be what a paper cut.

Severity of the wound is not addressed in any of the definitions you are quoting. The difference, according to your quotes, seems to be the method of injury. The term laceration does not imply a MORE SEVERE wound no matter how much you want it to.

[tom88]

Originally Posted by awpitt

Actually, it doesn't all match. He reported having had his head repeatedly SMASHED into the ground. If that were the case, he would've had a concussion. None was reported. The police closeup pictures of his head show a couple of small cuts. Little to no bruising. As I mentioned earlier, my son accidently bumped his head on a paper towel dispenser at school. It required four or five stitches. Zimmerman had his head repeatedly SMASHED into the ground. He needed some band-aids. The head shots don't match Zimmerman's story.

I'm sorry, but this doesn't really add up. Some people get shot and die, and other's get shot in the same exact place and live. Some people hit their heads during soccer games and get concussions, and some people hit their heads and don't. I don't believe that you can, with any degree of medical certainty determine what type of hit in the head can cause a concussion.

Zimmerman's perception that his head was being smashed into the ground is valid based on the injuries to the back of his head. In the heat of the moment perception is everything.

[tom88]

Originally Posted by Gerald

Having scratches on the head [no broken nose, no concussion, no bruising] doesn't match the events he described. In his own mind he is always the victim, be it police officer, woman, or child.

Where has he said he was the victim with the police officer? The incident with the woman and "child" have yet to be litigated. You seem to add opinions as if they were facts.

What we do know: Zman called the police. He followed the teenager. The teen was shot and killed. Zman had scratches on his head.

You keep saying scratches on his head in order to minimize what happened to fit the scenario in your mind. I saw the blood trail from the so called scratches and it looked more severe to me than the scratch I got from a tree branch today.

What would cause the teen to attack Zman? Brandishing the gun alone would have stopped any altercation, although I cannot see how the teen would have started the altercation.

Even a teen who was high and not capable of making a rational judgment?

The voice in the background, crying for help, has been denied by experts to belong to Zman, but Zman's father says it was him.

Who are the experts?

I just don't know why people on these forums make Martin out to be the scum of the earth and deserving of death. Even if an individual doesn't think Zman deserves a prison sentence, I question the morality of any human being that does not view this incident as avoidable, tragic, and the result of poor judgement on Zman's behalf.

The same could be said about Zimmerman. You appear to be making him out to be scum. You are correct about one thing, this could have been avoided. Had Martin kept walking, not assaulted Zimmerman, this could have been avoided. Zimmerman didn't get those injuries after Martin was dead.

I question your morality when you think it's acceptable to call people derogatory names because they have an opinion different from yours.

[tom88]

Originally Posted by JoeRider

So good that he passed two stress tests (lie detector tests). The guy is amazing. Yet he is not brilliant enough to tell the truth as his bond hearing and instead just sits there like a potted plant.

Voice stress analysis is not an accurate truth detection device. It's developer is of questionable character and the technology has been widley viewed as unreliable.

While I agree with your premise that this guy is likely not guilty and a victim and the fact that he took the test goes a long way showing he had nothing to fear about the truth being told, I wouldn't hold in high esteem the results of such an unreliable test.

[tom88]

Originally Posted by blazinlow89

I guess the EMT looked up terms in his med book to give Zimmermans story more credibility. Everyone is out to cover this up.

The EMT didn't have to look it up, that is how you would describe a "cut". It would be a laceration. Having said that, based on the pictures it did not appear to be a "minor" laceration to me, it appeared to be severe enough to make me think my head was being "smashed" into the ground if I were the person who received those injuries.

[bcp (Premo)]

Originally Posted by tom88

The EMT didn't have to look it up, that is how you would describe a "cut". It would be a laceration. Having said that, based on the pictures it did not appear to be a "minor" laceration to me, it appeared to be severe enough to make me think my head was being "smashed" into the ground if I were the person who received those injuries.

The only reason you would have been concerned with the head bashing would be because Martin the thug was black, had he been a white child you would have been ok with the beating

racist.

[blazinlow89]

Originally Posted by tom88

The EMT didn't have to look it up, that is how you would describe a "cut". It would be a laceration. Having said that, based on the pictures it did not appear to be a "minor" laceration to me, it appeared to be severe enough to make me think my head was being "smashed" into the ground if I were the person who received those injuries.

Ypu understand my point though, I was being sarcastic towards TG.

[Hank]

Originally Posted by blazinlow89

Sorry but something about "minor cut" does not sound like what a "laceration" would be. They may be the same in terms of a wound, from what I can find a cut is just that a cut, from a sharp object. Meanwhile a laceration is a really bad cut which can be caused from a blunt impact. A minor cut would then be what a paper cut.

Big dummy!

[thatguy]

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Originally Posted by blazinlow89

Ypu understand my point though, I was being sarcastic towards TG.

So you were being ignorant for the sake of sarcasm?


Sure didn't seem like sarcasm to me.