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Old 06-29-2012, 12:30 PM   #1
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Zimmerman Bond Hearing Today

EMT is testifying that 40% of Zimmerman's head was covered in blood. He was the one that cleaned him up and he recommend to the police that that Zimmerman wounds were serious enough that they should be checkout by a doctor.

Info from Zimmerman doctor - lower back injury, broken nose and cuts to head. Also recommended that Zimmerman should see a therapist to deal with the emotional aspect of the shooting and injuries.

This is the discussion about entering material in to the case. Zimmerman's dad got up to testify that his sons voice was on the tape. The Pros. Att. cross examined him and tried to say he could not heard his son because Martin had his hand over his mouth. Dad Z said based on his injuries, Martin had his hands on more places than just his mouth.

Dad is going to be a key witness in this. Also, Zimmerman attorney is kicking the judges butt right now for his appointment statements in is rulings. Not sure if that is a good thing to do.

Def. Att seems to be pushing to make this case about racial profiling. I see where they are going and I think they are making their case even weaker.


True TV (Court TV) is spinning against Zimmerman. Too funny. They really have to work at it.

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Old 06-29-2012, 01:44 PM   #2
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True TV (Court TV) is spinning against Zimmerman. Too funny. They really have to work at it.
Since they cannot continue to pillory Casey Anthony, they need a new villain to promote in order to keep viewership up. If there is no Zimmerman trial (and all the rigamarole to leads up to it) Tru TV might have to purchase some programming content.
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Old 06-30-2012, 07:45 AM   #3
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EMT is testifying that 40% of Zimmerman's head was covered in blood. He was the one that cleaned him up and he recommend to the police that that Zimmerman wounds were serious enough that they should be checkout by a doctor.

Info from Zimmerman doctor - lower back injury, broken nose and cuts to head. Also recommended that Zimmerman should see a therapist to deal with the emotional aspect of the shooting and injuries.

This is the discussion about entering material in to the case. Zimmerman's dad got up to testify that his sons voice was on the tape. The Pros. Att. cross examined him and tried to say he could not heard his son because Martin had his hand over his mouth. Dad Z said based on his injuries, Martin had his hands on more places than just his mouth.

Dad is going to be a key witness in this. Also, Zimmerman attorney is kicking the judges butt right now for his appointment statements in is rulings. Not sure if that is a good thing to do.

Def. Att seems to be pushing to make this case about racial profiling. I see where they are going and I think they are making their case even weaker.


True TV (Court TV) is spinning against Zimmerman. Too funny. They really have to work at it.
First, the dad wasn't a witness to anything and he has every reason to tell the story in a way to protect his son.

Second, anyone who has gotten a cut on the head knows they bleed like crazy, even small cuts.

Third, before you talk about trying really hard and spinning you should take a look in the mirror.
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Well, it appears he is a witness. Expert at that, considering he has heard his son's voice most of his life.

Agree, he has every reason to tell the story to protect his son.

Second; major cuts bleed too. Point was not that it was major or minor, point was that 40% of his head was bleeding and medical reports showed a broken nose. Something the SP was down playing and Lead Det. selectively leaked video footage (tagged as no injury) to TV to give the impression that their was no injury. Here is the Martin theme - no injury, acting like a cop, racial profiling. It is funny because the lead det. has done some pretty stupid leaks and made public comments that are going to kill his creditability.
Like - if he stayed in his vehicle and waited for the police this would not have happened. Then making the dumb comment - he should have identified himself to Martin. The guy is all over the board.

Third, hard spin. Ha. I just need to turn what is pushed out there back. Like Zimmerman was white, then Zimmerman was white Hispanic. Martin was pictured as a 12 year angel when he was a 17 year old thug. I just need to point out where things are wrong. That is not hard spin. Pretty easy actually.

PA got over dramatic at the hearing and asking Zimmerman's dad a question he should not have and got nailed for it. I sure hope this goes to trial (I doubt it will) because the SP and her little witnesses are going to look like idiots and it is going to be fun watching it.
I think you are wrong. They will find Zimmerman guilty of murder in the second degree. If they don't there will be riots across the country. Just saying........
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First, the dad wasn't a witness to anything and he has every reason to tell the story in a way to protect his son.

Second, anyone who has gotten a cut on the head knows they bleed like crazy, even small cuts.

Third, before you talk about trying really hard and spinning you should take a look in the mirror.
Well, it appears he is a witness. Expert at that, considering he has heard his son's voice most of his life.

Agree, he has every reason to tell the story to protect his son.

Second; major cuts bleed too. Point was not that it was major or minor, point was that 40% of his head was bleeding and medical reports showed a broken nose. Something the SP was down playing and Lead Det. selectively leaked video footage (tagged as no injury) to TV to give the impression that their was no injury. Here is the Martin theme - no injury, acting like a cop, racial profiling. It is funny because the lead det. has done some pretty stupid leaks and made public comments that are going to kill his creditability.
Like - if he stayed in his vehicle and waited for the police this would not have happened. Then making the dumb comment - he should have identified himself to Martin. The guy is all over the board.

Third, hard spin. Ha. I just need to turn what is pushed out there back. Like Zimmerman was white, then Zimmerman was white Hispanic. Martin was pictured as a 12 year angel when he was a 17 year old thug. I just need to point out where things are wrong. That is not hard spin. Pretty easy actually.

PA got over dramatic at the hearing and asking Zimmerman's dad a question he should not have and got nailed for it. I sure hope this goes to trial (I doubt it will) because the SP and her little witnesses are going to look like idiots and it is going to be fun watching it.
Ike I said, spinning hard. 40% of zimmermans head wasnt bleeding. Zimmermans dads zinger doesn't explain how he could have been screaming if trayvon had his mouth covered as he claimed. And martins mom will be a counter "expert witness" considering she says it was her sons voice on the tape.

You just want things to be one way so bad you ignore everything that doesn't suit your opinion and spin the rest.
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Ike I said, spinning hard. 40% of zimmermans head wasnt bleeding. Zimmermans dads zinger doesn't explain how he could have been screaming if trayvon had his mouth covered as he claimed. And martins mom will be a counter "expert witness" considering she says it was her sons voice on the tape.

You just want things to be one way so bad you ignore everything that doesn't suit your opinion and spin the rest.
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Ike I said, spinning hard. 40% of zimmermans head wasnt bleeding. Zimmermans dads zinger doesn't explain how he could have been screaming if trayvon had his mouth covered as he claimed. And martins mom will be a counter "expert witness" considering she says it was her sons voice on the tape.

You just want things to be one way so bad you ignore everything that doesn't suit your opinion and spin the rest.
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There is no spin in anything I said. I am simply pointing out the flaws in joe's super spin.
BTW, pointing out that joe has his mind made up without knowing what actually happened doesn't mean that I have done the same thing. I have said repeatedly that I'll wait for the trial
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Ike I said, spinning hard. 40% of zimmermans head wasnt bleeding.
No you don't spin much!!

Most of the mans head was bleeding yet you focus on the smaller part that wasn't. Spin? Nahhhhh....
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BTW, pointing out that joe has his mind made up without knowing what actually happened doesn't mean that I have done the same thing. I have said repeatedly that I'll wait for the trial
Uh, I hate to tell you this, Pot, but you are clearly not waiting for the trial and are trying desperately to refute anything that might throw your media-created paradigm into a tizzy.

I agree with Dutch - Zimmerman will be found guilty no matter what the evidence. I don't even know why they're bothering with the expense of a trial.
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Ike I said, spinning hard. 40% of zimmermans head wasnt bleeding.
No you don't spin much!!

Most of the mans head was bleeding yet you focus on the smaller part that wasn't. Spin? Nahhhhh....
There is a big difference between most of a mans head bleeding and 40% of his head being covered in blood. You guys keep spinning though.
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