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Old 07-04-2012, 01:41 PM   #11
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I'm just amazed at how scientists will call it the "God particle" and yet deny that God actually made everything. Also amazing is how they look for the smallest stuff while missing the big stuff. Oh well, if it leads them to believe then let them enjoy their research...
Because every single scientist ever is working on this one project.
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Old 07-04-2012, 01:45 PM   #12
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I'm just amazed at how scientists will call it the "God particle" and yet deny that God actually made everything. Also amazing is how they look for the smallest stuff while missing the big stuff. Oh well, if it leads them to believe then let them enjoy their research...


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Old 07-04-2012, 01:46 PM   #13
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Soitainly! In fairness to Chris, these people are more interested in finding what the smallest particle of matter is, as opposed to who made it. Of course WE know that it's futile because it's really not important. Zillions of $$$ for nothing or for something that mankind will probably use for evil purposes...
These are the same scientists that gave us the world wide web, cloud computing, and medical research.
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Old 07-04-2012, 02:23 PM   #14
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I'm just amazed at how scientists will call it the "God particle" and yet deny that God actually made everything. Also amazing is how they look for the smallest stuff while missing the big stuff. Oh well, if it leads them to believe then let them enjoy their research...
While a lot of scientists are probably atheists, some of them likely aren't. I don't know what the ratio is, but my guess is most are atheists, but you can likely also find a sizeable percentage that do believe.

Also searching for really small stuff is kind of the cutting edge of technology. In Newton's day the cutting edge physics was coming up with laws to describe the every day motion we see (like the movements of a baseball hit off a bat or a car (though cars didn't exist in Newton's day), or a falling object. This is the physics you probably learned in HS.

By the nineteenth century the cutting edge questions in science were on a smaller scale. They were theorizing about things like electro-magentism, but also learning about atoms. At first it was theorized matter consisted of unbreakable particles of atoms. That was proved early in the twentieth century. Next they discovered atoms were in fact breakable and could be broken down into protons, neutrons, and electrons. Understanding how to manipulate has lead to electornics (including telephones, computers, et cetera) so this was a big theoretical break through. When I was in high school I was introduced to this breakdown of the atom in a chemistry class.

Some point in the twentieth century they discovered protons and neutrons were made of smaller particles called quarks. They also continued to find other particles of matter. This lead to the "Standard Model" of the 1970's. I didn't learn about this in HS (despite the fact I went to High School almost thirty years after the standard model was established and they easily could have added to the text books in a form high schoolers could understand)

In the 1970's string theory challenged the Standard Model and over the last thirty years has more or less come to supersede it for the most part. String theory says that at the Planck size (an unimagineable small size to see something this size you would need a telescope bigger than the milky way galaxy) matter is made up of little one and two dimensional pieces of strings rather than the traditional spherical looking particles that scientists thought of in the Standard Model. For example, atoms consists of protons, neutrons, and electrons. Protons consists of quarks. Quarks may consist of X (undiscovered) and X may consist of Y (undiscovered), but string theory says when you hit the plank size, rather an a spherical particle which is how scientist imagine protons, neutrons, and electrons, you going to have one and two dimensional strings. In other words the three dimension matter we know from everyday experience (backwards-forward, up and down, and side to side) is actually made of string consisting of only one and two dimensions.

So that is a summary of the history of Physics in the last 500 years. The Higgs Boson is a big find because its something that the Standard Model theorized existed (and String Theory did not disagree, though strings are way smaller than the Higgs Boson)

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Old 07-04-2012, 03:47 PM   #15
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I'm sure GOD is laughing Himself silly watching all this:

"These narrow-minded brains think they have found the smallest particle? They ain't seen nothing yet!

But they are a hoot to watch and listen to!"
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Thing is, it wasn't called the God particle to start with. It was called the G-damn particle because it was so hard to find. They decided that was a bit rude though and shortened it.
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Thing is, it wasn't called the God particle to start with. It was called the G-damn particle because it was so hard to find. They decided that was a bit rude though and shortened it.
Very scientific of them to even think that rude applies to them!
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"These narrow-minded brains think they have found the smallest particle? They ain't seen nothing yet!
I see what you did there.
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Old 07-04-2012, 09:19 PM   #19
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Zillions of $$$ for nothing or for something that mankind will probably use for evil purposes...
Evil purposes, maybe.

$$$ for nothing, definitely not. The Higgs boson particle is believed to be the reason matter has mass. Inertia is a function of mass. Cancelling the effect Higgs boson has on matter would result in an inertia-less drive. Airplanes that make right turns, no g forces, no need for airbags, space drives, anti-gravity, etc are possible applications.
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Old 07-04-2012, 10:21 PM   #20
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Great! Another nuclear scientist who knows more than God...
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These are the same scientists that gave us the world wide web, cloud computing, and medical research.
HARDLY. Did you hear that on CNN or PMSNBC?
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